Crusader Kings III

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mb3 Jun 13, 2024 @ 2:56pm
Tell me, how does a 73 year old man have a child with a 45 year old woman?
Neither one has lust or any traits that improve fertility. The guy sat with that wife for 30 years with no kids, but the second I give him a county to watch he gets a kid like magic. *Shakes head* This game is really stupid some times.
Last edited by mb3; Jun 14, 2024 @ 11:01am
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armyissue69 Jun 13, 2024 @ 3:04pm 
Yep weird. Maybe, she felt SHE needed an heir to inherit and went OUTSIDE for help.
Razorblade Jun 13, 2024 @ 3:06pm 
You answered your own question. Courtiers have a Fertility debuff; that debuff goes away when they or their spouse become landed (at Count-tier or higher).

The meta for building a strong dynasty is to land as many dynasty members as possible. Otherwise, unlanded branches of your family are likely to simply die out.
jpcerutti Jun 13, 2024 @ 3:38pm 
On the contrary. The game does not want you to have the county back. ;)

Without an heir, the county reverts to you if they die.

Dude got "busy" REAL fast.
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JC Jun 13, 2024 @ 7:03pm 
Do people not understand how fertility works? A guy's age does not matter and a 43 year old women is still with in the realm of She can get pregnant. Girls can get pregnant even in their early 50's with out any fertility treatment, it's just rare. Not sure what the game cut off is coded at, but i've seen early 40's before.
Razorblade Jun 13, 2024 @ 7:28pm 
Originally posted by JC:
Not sure what the game cut off is coded at
45
mb3 Jun 13, 2024 @ 8:31pm 
Oh, forgot to mention, that 73 old man is Homosexual too.
Bishi Jun 13, 2024 @ 9:39pm 
Filial piety and political marriages are not unique to straight people of the past. Even a homosexual would want to carry on his bloodline back then.

Edit: Mechanically speaking, being homosexual has no bearing on fertility in this game compared to CK2. It only affects opinion and schemes.

P.S. I did the math for you on your scenario assuming the wife had no prior children and they own no artifacts. Roughly 2% chance a month for them to get pregnant. If they got a laying event from each other or the wife's lover it would be 100%.
Last edited by Bishi; Jun 13, 2024 @ 9:53pm
mb3 Jun 13, 2024 @ 10:11pm 
Ok, look. This is crazier than the Wacky Races now.

I killed there kid and literally within a couple months she was pregnant again.

He's 74 and homosexual and she's 46 now. Isn't this actually breaking the rules of the game now?
Bishi Jun 13, 2024 @ 10:28pm 
That he aged 1 year and she 3? Yeah I would say something here appears to be broken...
Ordinary Cat Jun 13, 2024 @ 10:43pm 
It's very possible that there's no public evidence to suggest your 74-year-old guy isn't the father, and she's getting serviced by someone else.
Abacus Jun 13, 2024 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by mb3:
Neither one has lust or any traits that improve fertility. The guy sat with that wife for 30 years with no kids, but the second I give him a county to watch he gets a kid like magic. *Shakes head* This game is really stupid some times.
it's a video game.....

I haven't specifically looked at that scripting, but it probably goes to ~45 (for game reasons), at witch point something like an "if" statement would prevent it from occurring despite fertility being high.

Then again it could be implemented differently then that, because maybe it has some downsides in the way I mentioned or they wanted something else.

IIRC men can have children till 75.
Last edited by Abacus; Jun 13, 2024 @ 11:44pm
Half-lidded Bruiser Jun 13, 2024 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by JC:
A guy's age does not matter and a 43 year old women is still with in the realm of She can get pregnant. Girls can get pregnant even in their early 50's with out any fertility treatment, it's just rare. Not sure what the game cut off is coded at, but i've seen early 40's before.
-"A guy's age" DOES matter, with some decline, but never a hard block, like with woman. For reference, the last age reducing threshold in men is age 70, which confers a 0.5 multiplier to fertility.
-Without modding the game, women in CK3 cannot get pregnant past "46". None of this "early 50's" thing.
-Women are not set to "early 40's", but hard menopause at age 45. I've witnessed pregnancies at age 46, but this is because they got knocked up when they were still 45.
All of this can be confirmed in the NChildbirth section of 00_defines.txt in your game files.

Originally posted by mb3:
Oh, forgot to mention, that 73 old man is Homosexual too.
Irrelevant. So far as I can tell, sexual orientation has no direct effect on fertility.
PostalGibbon Jun 14, 2024 @ 1:05am 
Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:
Originally posted by JC:
A guy's age does not matter and a 43 year old women is still with in the realm of She can get pregnant. Girls can get pregnant even in their early 50's with out any fertility treatment, it's just rare. Not sure what the game cut off is coded at, but i've seen early 40's before.
-"A guy's age" DOES matter, with some decline, but never a hard block, like with woman. For reference, the last age reducing threshold in men is age 70, which confers a 0.5 multiplier to fertility.
-Without modding the game, women in CK3 cannot get pregnant past "46". None of this "early 50's" thing.
-Women are not set to "early 40's", but hard menopause at age 45. I've witnessed pregnancies at age 46, but this is because they got knocked up when they were still 45.
All of this can be confirmed in the NChildbirth section of 00_defines.txt in your game files.

Originally posted by mb3:
Oh, forgot to mention, that 73 old man is Homosexual too.
Irrelevant. So far as I can tell, sexual orientation has no direct effect on fertility.

Woman with Fecund trait can have children at the max age of 50.

To OP: Giving land to rule removes -50% fertility reduction that happens to all landless characters. And probably her lover knocked her up immediately. Go to debug mode and take a peek.
Last edited by PostalGibbon; Jun 14, 2024 @ 1:06am
Razorblade Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by mb3:
Ok, look. This is crazier than the Wacky Races now.

I killed there kid and literally within a couple months she was pregnant again.

He's 74 and homosexual and she's 46 now. Isn't this actually breaking the rules of the game now?
45 is the last year a woman can get pregnant in CK3, but they can still deliver at 46 if impregnated while 45.
Sheik Yerbouti Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:04am 
Fecund women get an xtra 5yrs They can have children til 50.
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