It's final, I'm keeping fate of iberia turned off

[Aelfric]

Never seen a worse dlc to such a game with good mechanical potential. It's a total nightmare ending the disaster, you can own the entire continent and you'll only have 1 end the struggle condition in only 1 struggle phase that you're able to do. It's too bad. Beyond bad. Freedom at last without everything bad in it.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Aelfric:

Never seen a worse dlc to such a game with good mechanical potential. It's a total nightmare ending the disaster, you can own the entire continent and you'll only have 1 end the struggle condition in only 1 struggle phase that you're able to do. It's too bad. Beyond bad. Freedom at last without everything bad in it.

Fate of Iberia is not bad, the only bad DLC, they have released is Friends & Foes, the most broken DLC ever.

[Aelfric]

oh someone catalan wants to end the disaster? conquer iberia in 20-30 years, check. now culture convert the entirety of the aquitaine kingdom. oh guess, i'll need to move my captial to the smaller navarra kingdom. oh for some reason i get a modifier that says i cant convert anything basque to catalonian until i have a new leader. oh i'm also not allowed any empires until its ended.

just needing to move to navarra for its size shows its far too linear. and then the phase ends and im stuck for eternity because the other conditions require owning less than half. never going back, ever.

[Poompaxhotl-Mardxvar]

Originally posted by Aelfric:

oh someone catalan wants to end the disaster? conquer iberia in 20-30 years, check. now culture convert the entirety of the aquitaine kingdom. oh guess, i'll need to move my captial to the smaller navarra kingdom. oh for some reason i get a modifier that says i cant convert anything basque to catalonian until i have a new leader. oh i'm also not allowed any empires until its ended.

just needing to move to navarra for its size shows its far too linear. and then the phase ends and im stuck for eternity because the other conditions require owning less than half. never going back, ever.

Can't you move your capital out of Iberia to create empires?

[Kimlin]

I feel like the requirements to end the struggle are far too easy and ending it is available far to early. That’s my complaint otherwise it has a lot of cool mechanics.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Kimlin:

I feel like the requirements to end the struggle are far too easy and ending it is available far to early. That’s my complaint otherwise it has a lot of cool mechanics.

Interesting. I actually had trouble ending the stuggle because I expanded too quick. I ended up swearing loyalty to the AI created empire of Italia and usurping it to get an empire title because I couldnt religious and culture convert fast enough.

Still disagree with OP, great additions.

[AmesNFire]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by Kimlin:

I feel like the requirements to end the struggle are far too easy and ending it is available far to early. That’s my complaint otherwise it has a lot of cool mechanics.

Interesting. I actually had trouble ending the stuggle because I expanded too quick. I ended up swearing loyalty to the AI created empire of Italia and usurping it to get an empire title because I couldnt religious and culture convert fast enough.

Still disagree with OP, great additions.

Ultimately the issue with the Iberian struggle is that each phase and ending is too strict in its requirements in a game where the landscape is constantly changing hands.
People being locked out of ending the struggle one way or being locked into a specific phase that they can't get out of without sabotaging themselves shows a serious lack of quality control in my opinion.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by AmesNFire:

Originally posted by Toblm:

Interesting. I actually had trouble ending the stuggle because I expanded too quick. I ended up swearing loyalty to the AI created empire of Italia and usurping it to get an empire title because I couldnt religious and culture convert fast enough.

Still disagree with OP, great additions.

Ultimately the issue with the Iberian struggle is that each phase and ending is too strict in its requirements in a game where the landscape is constantly changing hands.
People being locked out of ending the struggle one way or being locked into a specific phase that they can't get out of without sabotaging themselves shows a serious lack of quality control in my opinion.

Thats not what I encountered either. Phases were not an issue. Cultural conversion rate was.