Too many counties + overextension penalty

[HERÓI USTRA]

Hi again!
I'm a duke and i can have 6 holdings and i currently own 4, but somehow i got the overextension penalty and i'm told i have too many counties.
I tried giving land to the point i only had 2 holdings but i still got the penalty.
Does someone have an insight to share?

[Chip56]

Dukes have a limit how many counties may be owned in total by you AND your vasals.
And this sounds like you are too big for a duke, which i think is 30 counties. Its not the same as having too many holdings yourself,.

[HERÓI USTRA]

Originally posted by Chip56:

Dukes have a limit how many counties may be owned in total by you AND your vasals.
And this sounds like you are too big for a duke, which i think is 30 counties. Its not the same as having too many holdings yourself,.

i did not know my vassals counties matter too! should i create aa duchy and give it to someone?

[Dizzy Ladybug]

Originally posted by HERÓI USTRA:

Originally posted by Chip56:

Dukes have a limit how many counties may be owned in total by you AND your vasals.
And this sounds like you are too big for a duke, which i think is 30 counties. Its not the same as having too many holdings yourself,.

i did not know my vassals counties matter too! should i create aa duchy and give it to someone?

no, because that would make them independent. Dukes can only rule over counts. can you make a Kingdom somewhere ?

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

As a duke you should not give away a duchy as they will become independent unless you are deliberately weakening yourself for the sake of some other plan (e.g. spreading the dynasty). Create a kingdom instead.

[Chip56]

You want to upgrade to kingdom to keep your vasals.
Of course if you really dont care about them or you value another Independent duke that is a member of your dynasty you could give a duchy away.

[HERÓI USTRA]

Originally posted by Dizzy Ladybug:

Originally posted by HERÓI USTRA:

i did not know my vassals counties matter too! should i create aa duchy and give it to someone?

no, because that would make them independent. Dukes can only rule over counts. can you make a Kingdom somewhere ?

Originally posted by Chip56:

You want to upgrade to kingdom to keep your vasals.
Of course if you really dont care about them or you value another Independent duke that is a member of your dynasty you could give a duchy away.

Originally posted by Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia:

As a duke you should not give away a duchy as they will become independent unless you are deliberately weakening yourself for the sake of some other plan (e.g. spreading the dynasty). Create a kingdom instead.

there is no option to create a kingdom, i think ill give away a duchy to my heir in the meanwhile

ill start another game with the same rules and try again because this run i ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up too much.

thanks for the insight guys!