Done with this GARBAGE GAME!

[Kiethoo]

Was having fun playing then new hotfix borked my Save Game! Completely corrupted.
No Mods Ironman/Achievement Run....almost 15 hours into it...gone.

Started a new game 3 new games actuelly! Why? Cause 3 different times I couldn't get even ONE of the traits my Guardian had. And I kept getting tier 1 Education (Martial) with 12 base, a intelligent guardian from age 0-16, my guardian was Brave, Zealous, Diligent. Of those traits I DIDNT GET A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE AS OPTIONS! (Guardian was my culture and religion, and 100 relationship)
Court Tutor was Excellent.

INSTEAD I GOT SADISTIC, GLUTTON, AND ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AMBITIOUS.

This game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ !

OH AND ALSO Great Job on HOTFIXING !
I got 2 different WARDS EVENTS WHERE A CHARACTER WASNT GENERATED!

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Kiethoo:

Was having fun playing then new hotfix borked my Save Game! Completely corrupted.
No Mods Ironman/Achievement Run....almost 15 hours into it...gone.

Started a new game 3 new games actuelly! Why? Cause 3 different times I couldn't get even ONE of the traits my Guardian had. And I kept getting tier 1 Education (Martial) with 12 base, a intelligent guardian from age 0-16, my guardian was Brave, Zealous, Diligent. Of those traits I DIDNT GET A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE AS OPTIONS! (Guardian was my culture and religion, and 100 relationship)
Court Tutor was Excellent.

INSTEAD I GOT SADISTIC, GLUTTON, AND ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AMBITIOUS.

This game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ !

OH AND ALSO Great Job on HOTFIXING !
I got 2 different WARDS EVENTS WHERE A CHARACTER WASNT GENERATED!

How about using Console Commands, the Game is way too unfinish, to play without Debug Mode and Achievements can only earned once.

Or you could use some Cheat Mods, which allows you to grant any Character, the Traits you want.

[Bordric]

Yeah just get a "I win Button" because playing the game is too hard.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Bordric:

Yeah just get a "I win Button" because playing the game is too hard.

The Game is too easy, but the Personality Formation Events for Childs are still garbage and should be removed from the Game, because it is 100% RNG and too much RNG kills every Game.
(Even CK2 has had a way better Personality Formation System for Childs than CK3).

I can complete 4 Dynasty Legacy through the right Culture Traditions and a lot of landed Rulers of the own Dynasty in 30 years, where the AI only manages to destroy the Byzantine Empire in 30 years, because they are completly unable to control and to maintain an Empire.

[Bordric]

SO make easier with an I win Button gotcha.

[Сааребас]

I feel where OP is coming from but am far from this emotional about it.

Noticed that sometimes the game pushes certain traits (which cannot change over a lifetime).
No matter the guardian, or the parents for that matter.
Not to mention that the chaste trait, even as a fourth one, seems to pop up rather often nowadays.

It does feel as if when the game decides you will get a craven, glutt, arb character, you will get one.

Which is all fine and dandy but it's simply not clear how and why.
Certainly character traits should be dynamic and changeable.

I don't condone OP's use of language but can sympathize with OP's sentiment.

[Ark]

quit then, game is obviously too hard for you....

once you learn how to play game is boring easy.. so just learn it mate

[Kiethoo]

You know what?
Maybe if the traits werent garbage and you had some more fun ♥♥♥♥ for them I might just be like "Okay guess im playing a Gluttonous, Paranoid, Sadist....."
But nothing about playing those traits is ever fun.
Compassionate is absolute aids. Ive tried to play it as a good person and all it does is ♥♥♥♥ you constantly.

Also DIED today from a Joust Event...only issue....NO JOUSTING....I was at an event for Archery and Chess, clicked on the main square and got a bugged out ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ event with purple boxes name_event type text and only one option with no Text _Dies

GG

[Grymogen]

Yeah, I only play in debug mode to avoid this type of frustration. The stress applied to characters for no good reason is out of control and I don't want every second person being a drunkard or flagellant before they reach adulthood.

[Tragopan]

I think the problem is that there are a few personality traits that are clearly better than the others. Every personality trait should be useful in some way, but some are just really bad no matter what not only because of their attributes but because of how they interact with everything else in the game as a whole.

We should never be in a situation where we feel obligated to cherry pick just to have a ruler that doesn't suck or avoid having a run ruined (and being stuck with Shy, for example, early on will ruin your run due to stress from EVERYTHING).

[JC]

Originally posted by Tragopan:

I think the problem is that there are a few personality traits that are clearly better than the others. Every personality trait should be useful in some way, but some are just really bad no matter what not only because of their attributes but because of how they interact with everything else in the game as a whole.

We should never be in a situation where we feel obligated to cherry pick just to have a ruler that doesn't suck or avoid having a run ruined (and being stuck with Shy, for example, early on will ruin your run due to stress from EVERYTHING).

What is wrong with bad traits? I was reading a article the other day about dungeons and dragons and some total nonsense about the older rule sets suck so bad because people should just be able to make the character they want verse have any sort of restrictions by playing a specific class. Which in some ways that is exactly what people complain about in this game. As if the classic, Roll 3d6 stick um in the slots in order and then create a character with around those stats is actually a challenge and something unique, trying to play a fighter that just has a 12 STR, or a mage that starts out with 2 HP. But these days that is just completely unthinkable.


the last character i created in CKIII, i created a character and Add Shy and Paranoid as my two starting traits because it actually makes starting a challenge. then RP the shy paranoid person trying to grow a kingdom. Thankfully there are mechanics that actually help make this challenging unlike CKII which was nothing more than stat bonuses or minuis. You cant even spend all the points or even add half the traits that might make the character more interesting because they will start with 3X the troops as the ones around you. It's basically just cheats if you abuse the system and don't restrict yourself.


I dunno what to say, other than of course there should be traits that are not helpful over all, or work in different ways or make things much harder. It's a game. Not everything should be great or even helpful, How would that make a game more fun? I am completely baffled on your statement how a bad ruler completely ruins a game play through because you cherry picked the least bad option. Perhaps try some plays that you take the worst option every time and learn different ways to play the game. The game becomes a lot more fun when you just roll with the flow.



OP: just reading your past posts.. Perhaps it's time you take a break if a game causes this much trauma.

[Kiethoo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974715675182526464/1152261462211960832/20230915081356_1.jpg

Ironman Achievements / No Mods.

Got not only 2 good traits finally but 3 SPARE TRAITS
Brave, Zealous, Lustful, Vengeful, Eccentric.

I got a Wards event where I had no friends so I made up an imagenary one.
A girl too "Pordis" (you choose her name from a small list)
Got brave trait at first.
Imaginary friend event - Remove Brave +relationship / remove brave get craven +++relationship keep brave -relationship

I kept brave.

second trait roll got zealous.
Imaginary friend event chance to get a girl as a crush, gain chaste, or tell imagenary friend im into her +++relationship ( I chose this )

third trait roll got Lustful +crush on my guardian (peek event)
Then did a meet peers event.
Second event in meet peers Im playing chess with my imagenary friend and another child bullys me about being alone.
I chose the option where I threaten him not to insult my friend (gained a child nemisis)
After peers finished,
Imagenary friend event. She suggested I stand up to him by spread rumors about him.
Did it, gained vengeful. Other Option was lose brave gain craven.

After this event I got 1 final imagenary friend event where my regent came in and was like.....you need to stop dude....
If I said ok Gain PARANOID and lose Imagenary friend.
I said screw you and got Eccentric and got to keep my imagenary friend.

NOTE : after reaching 16....25 years old now...no new imagenary friend events :(
I just have a small buff +5 learning -10 vassal opinion "Has Imaganry Friend" with no expire date.


Is it wierd I wanted more? Why couldn't I take my Imagenary friend as my lover?
Find our Child out in the garden and raise it?

God I hate how they give you these events that end just as they are getting good....

[Pocket Medic]

Do none of you know how traits are assigned at all?

[John2Lionheart]

Good job paradox you made your good. This is what it needs.

Create more of a challange and more ck2 vetrens will but the game and support you.

You made your money your jack pot from ck2 so please dont forget that.

I hope you do not make your games more easy to tender to newbs/_+ noobs.

I would love to see people playing ck3 playing ck2 i bet they wont be able to play it becauase it is a much harder game.

[wielka ropucha]

Okay