Jizya tax - how does it work?

[Tommy_Cooker]

I'm a Muslim ruler with Christian vassals and I can't work out how to tax them. My religion has the Jizya doctrine. I have a tax jurisdiction set to Jizya status, but no Christians show up in the list of untaxed vassals. I have tried ticking the Jizya status box in vassal contracts, but no difference. What am I missing?

[Kapika96]

Tax jurisdictions/collectors only apply to clan vassals. Christian vassals are likely to be feudal rather than clan.

If you add jizya status to their vassal contract and confirm it, then they should give +40% tax, -40% levies and have +20 opinion with you. Plus you'll no longer be able to convert them/their land or revoke their titles.

[CrUsHeR]

The main thing that Jizya does is the +20% domain tax from counties not of your own faith.

Also if you read the wiki, it still mentions special contract options for Clan vassals, like the Jizya or Ghazi contract. However, these features were moved to the Tax Collectors.

[Danny]

Originally posted by Kapika96:

or revoke their titles.

Why can't you revoke land with that?
Atleast if you have a valid reason to do so.

[Whatever]

Jizz whom?

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by Danny:

Originally posted by Kapika96:

or revoke their titles.

Why can't you revoke land with that?
Atleast if you have a valid reason to do so.

Because it blocks you from doing so.
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Vassals#Vassal_contracts

[CrUsHeR]

There usually are alternative punishments to revocation.

Arrest means you can send them to the dungeon to die.
Banish means they get deposed (though may re-inherit the same title sometimes)
Execute is obvious

Although revocation is often the best because you can re-roll the strategic cards within your realm and ideally get new, thankful vassals with proper de jure structure.

[Danny]

Originally posted by Kapika96:

Originally posted by Danny:

Why can't you revoke land with that?
Atleast if you have a valid reason to do so.

Because it blocks you from doing so.
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Vassals#Vassal_contracts

I meant more, of why it blocks revocations.
As if they're a known murderer, I should be able to revoke title.
Different faith shouldn't come into play here.

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by Danny:

Originally posted by Kapika96:

Because it blocks you from doing so.
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Vassals#Vassal_contracts

I meant more, of why it blocks revocations.
As if they're a known murderer, I should be able to revoke title.
Different faith shouldn't come into play here.

To prevent you from taking their title and giving it to somebody of a different religion/keeping it yourself.

The idea is it's supposed to be like a safe haven for people of that religion. You could still imprison, banish, execute etc. the title holder, but those options should ensure their heir, who should still be their religion, gets the title so it stays within that religion.

[kamikadzemore]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

There usually are alternative punishments to revocation.

Arrest means you can send them to the dungeon to die.
Banish means they get deposed (though may re-inherit the same title sometimes)
Execute is obvious

Although revocation is often the best because you can re-roll the strategic cards within your realm and ideally get new, thankful vassals with proper de jure structure.

Or you can cut off their

[kamikadzemore]

Originally posted by Danny:

Originally posted by Kapika96:

Because it blocks you from doing so.
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Vassals#Vassal_contracts

I meant more, of why it blocks revocations.
As if they're a known murderer, I should be able to revoke title.
Different faith shouldn't come into play here.

Why revoke a title from a family then? You can punish a criminal not other people. Pretty fair deal with this contract.

[Danny]

Originally posted by kamikadzemore:

Originally posted by Danny:

I meant more, of why it blocks revocations.
As if they're a known murderer, I should be able to revoke title.
Different faith shouldn't come into play here.

Why revoke a title from a family then? You can punish a criminal :AngryCuckold:not other people. Pretty fair deal with this contract.

I revoke from family too, if they done a crime.