Crusader Kings III

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How is large realm stability atm?
Referring to the recent video from Kings & Generals (Why Was Germany so Fragmented in the Middle Ages?), it seems the game is far too lenient when you are over-extending your empire.

CK2 had some protection against that in the form of "all nearby realms uniting against you", which was a tad bit ridiculous, but at least kept the player somewhat in check. "Painting the map" simply wasn't viable in those days and there should be more revolts.

So: how are revolts in non-dejure-provinces in the current state of the game?
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VoiD Feb 16 @ 8:58am 
You can have quite a few revolts from different cultures if you fight them for too long, happens often in my games as portugal when I get a large muslin population resistant to conversion.

Other than that, revolts pretty much never happen unless you go out of your way to really push down public order.

Vassals are as docile as ever and are pretty much a threat unless you pay zero attention to them, and even then, tyranny is often enough to delete all threat.

Of course, there's also the issue of having OP MAA and/or knights, so even if, hypothetically speaking, every single county in your empire revolted at once you could easily stackwipe their entire army with your own.
You have a very rose-tinted interpretation of CK2's Threat mechanics. Coalitions slowed down expansion, but you could either wait out your Threat, or just take on the Coalition. Painting the map absolutely was viable.

But yes, vassal management is still as easy as it was in the CK2 days: ally, delegate, repeat. A competent player should not run into a lot of major internal issues.
Last edited by Razorblade; Feb 16 @ 4:43pm
Depends. If you tier and de jure your vassals you can largely keep them in check or somebody elses problem if they revolt (they lose their immediate liege, not the higher ups).

Things still get messy with successions with a large realm footprint - unless you plan for it specifically with traits and skilltree. If you're not well liked (or feared) AND your heir isn't either...

Large scale revolts are only an insurmountable problem really when the Bubonic Plague hits or if you try to reform the Roman Empire, specifically with the pre-Christian religion, by event. The plague will eventually leave but reforming that way the revolts become never ending. Have seen screenprints with the plague where they owned all of Europe... that was now filled with plague counties AND 10-20K rebel armies. You can beat those individually, but you can't beat anywhere near enough of them fast enough to win.
Last edited by jpcerutti; Feb 16 @ 5:45pm
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Date Posted: Feb 16 @ 8:14am
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