Question about culture change before a culture exists

[runs_with_scissors]

I started out in 867, and created England after ~10 years. My culture is Anglo-Saxon. When does the English culture get created and if I'm already King of England, how does that even happen?

[CrUsHeR]

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Culture#Emergent_cultures

[runs_with_scissors]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Culture#Emergent_cultures

Oof. Looks like I have to be Frankish first. So I have to conquer Franconian territory, move capital there, profit?

[CrUsHeR]

Or educate your heir with any frankish culture. To do that, i would recommend to marry any courtier to a frankish character with decent personality traits.

TBH this is a stupid nerf over CK2; because you would need a Norman ruler specifically, whose culture would not exist in a 769 or 867 start. So England was not supposed to be "English" without William the Bastard.

[Harris]

Originally posted by runs_with_scissors:

Oof. Looks like I have to be Frankish first.

Started as Swedish viking (he's tribal, unlike his English mates, better for early game), pillaged the hell out of France/England, conquered Neustria with the help of some mercs (excess gold), flipped Norman, conquered Wessex and Mercia, flipped English, with free tech from two flips and awesome longbowmen down the line. Forcing culture as England this way I was able to get primo as soon as it was available, like year 1200 or so.

[CrUsHeR]

He said he is Anglo-Saxon. But thanks for your awesome war stories.

[Harris]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

He said he is Anglo-Saxon

Same thing - flip Norse, conquer Neustria, flip Norman, flip English.