What Is The Best Way To Make Independent Rulers Of Your Dynasty?

[Your Resident Scene Girl]

I've been trying to figure this out for a while, but when I play a custom ruler, the only problem is that it's hard to get people of my dynasty to be independent rulers. so I have to usually conquer random land, give it to them, then make them independent. Is there a better or easier way of doing this? Also what is the easiest way to get a new culture or religion to exist in other independent realms other than mine?

[Old Man Gamer (OMG)]

What you are doing is basically how I do it, to ensure they are the same blood line. I will often have to step in and defend them as well, should they get war declared or independence wars rise up. It seems the larger the land, the harder it is for the AI to deal with appropriate behavior and defense.

A quick trick that you can do, is when you hit empire leader, and can give kingdoms and keep them subject to you, you can make those kingdom titles with less than all of the land. From there, give them independence after giving them the kingdom title. They can declare war more freely and often than you can, and will claim the rest of the kingdom quickly. They will need your military help though.

The most annoying though, is when they then declare war on me for title clashes, but fortunately, winning that forces them to relinquish those claims. As such, it is only once, but be prepared for that, if you have not seen it yet.

For culture/religion, I have not found a better way than the one land at a time. If there is a better way, I would love to know that as well.

[Your Resident Scene Girl]

thanks for the info, i'll keep this advice in mind.

[madracc00n]

crusade

[pi73r]

The most direct would be through crusades. When you are a top contributor of the winning you set a ruler from your dynasty for the conquered kingdom.

[Your Resident Scene Girl]

Usually I play as pagans, so I would assume having warmonger tenet is useful for it. Does reformed pagan great holy wars give a kingdom title to your beneficiary?

[Old Man Gamer (OMG)]

Originally posted by Xantiax The Rawrity Scene Girl:

Usually I play as pagans, so I would assume having warmonger tenet is useful for it. Does reformed pagan great holy wars give a kingdom title to your beneficiary?

While religious war is heavily dependent on the opponent having a faith that is an option for it, and also requires a relative closeness to be able to launch that war, it is good if you can do it. I find it inconsistent as a reliable fashion for arranging kingdoms though.

Norse faith is a lot of fun. I even named my puppy Loki. Not after the Marvel version, but that is a great actor though. Anyhow, with that, you have more freedom in arranging things, due to their way of war and openness to invading others. As Catholic, there are a great deal of stipulations and takes working your way up through years of being of good standing, or using intrigue to make it appear so.

[endymionologist]

The historical Hapsburg method (marry, inherit into dynasty) doesn't really work well for creating independents, and that's good because historically it wasn't really supposed to.
The historical Capetian ("Robertine" in CK) method (conquer, land family, have their descendants break free by conquering your neighbor kingdoms and/or declaring independence, and make sure you never get an Empire title) is slow and requires you to create dangerous vassals and then modify their contracts toward making them even more dangerous; this is how the AI dynasties are trying to do it.
The historical Karling method (stay on confederate partition forever, blob like crazy, die) is the fastest way, but you should know that the real Karling dynasty did not survive to be in Europa Univeralis.

[sfbistimg]

easiest way is combination of conquer kingdoms and grant them to family, marry daughters off to kings and or their heirs. Also if you have access to Great Holy Wars make your beneficiary a family member.

[snuggleform]

Holy Wars for Kingdoms is the least tedious - with the new dlc there's a tradition that removes the limit on holy wars for kingdoms so you can chain them back to back, high recommend.