How do I make nice with the Christians while remaining Asatru

[Yhvh10]

I'm playing an Asatru viking who just did an adventure and landed in Provence(Italy). Its been great so far, but the utter lack of being able to engage with the Christians aside from schemes is becoming tiresome. Especially since now I have kids that need to be married off. I tried reforming the Asatru but I need three holy sites?

How do you get the christians to move from viewing me as 'evil' to hostile without bucking the ability to raid and all the other fun stuff the Asatru get. Or am I basically just SOL and either convert or be converted?

[garthurbrown]

They will always view Asatru as Evil or Hostile, making you the subject of holy wars and Crusades.

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by garthurbrown:

They will always view Asatru as Evil or Hostile, making you the subject of holy wars and Crusades.

I can deal with hostile, and repelling crusades and holy wars is why I invest a ton into my military. But the evil fact means diplomacy and alliances are nearly impossible. Thats what id like to change. Get it from evil to hostile. Where its a bit more diplomatic.

[vortex_13]

Originally posted by sloshalot:

Originally posted by garthurbrown:

They will always view Asatru as Evil or Hostile, making you the subject of holy wars and Crusades.

I can deal with hostile, and repelling crusades and holy wars is why I invest a ton into my military. But the evil fact means diplomacy and alliances are nearly impossible. Thats what id like to change. Get it from evil to hostile. Where its a bit more diplomatic.

Reform the religion and take Christian Syncretism.

[CrUsHeR]

If you reform, you cannot raid anymore (since you're already feudal)

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by vortex_13:

Originally posted by sloshalot:

I can deal with hostile, and repelling crusades and holy wars is why I invest a ton into my military. But the evil fact means diplomacy and alliances are nearly impossible. Thats what id like to change. Get it from evil to hostile. Where its a bit more diplomatic.

Reform the religion and take Christian Syncretism.

But that means I need 3 holy sites…and I’d lose the ability to raid. :(

[jerrypocalypse]

You could always just add the Practiced Pirates tradition to your culture. It allows you to raid regardless of feudal or faith status.

[Uldra]

Form a religion that's not viewed as evil by Christians. Pretty sure the ability to raid is a culture trait, not a religious trait.

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by Uldra:

Form a religion that's not viewed as evil by Christians. Pretty sure the ability to raid is a culture trait, not a religious trait.

You need to either be tribal government *or* an unreformed faith, unless you have the cultural tradition Practiced Pirates, which allows you to always raid.

[steventirey]

Practiced Pirates isn't as good as normal raiding, as raiding raiding with PP while not being a tribal costs prestige (-1.5 prestige per 1 loot).

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by jerrypocalypse:

You could always just add the Practiced Pirates tradition to your culture. It allows you to raid regardless of feudal or faith status.

Thank you! I’ll give this a shot tonight when I hop back on. Though if it takes away prestige…that might be difficult as prestige from what I’ve encountered is more important than gold. And getting 1 prestige along with every 1 loot is really sweet!

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by Uldra:

Form a religion that's not viewed as evil by Christians. Pretty sure the ability to raid is a culture trait, not a religious trait.

Whenever I switch to Christian it cancels my ability to raid.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by sloshalot:

How do I make nice with the Christians while remaining Asatru?

Lock them in your dungeon and sacrifice them to the gods.
Or
Convert.

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by sloshalot:

How do I make nice with the Christians while remaining Asatru?

Lock them in your dungeon and sacrifice them to the gods.
Or
Convert.

So peace was never an option? :c

[Toblm]

Originally posted by sloshalot:

Originally posted by Toblm:

Lock them in your dungeon and sacrifice them to the gods.
Or
Convert.

So peace was never an option? :c

I suppose you might be able to reform Asatru with a Christian Syncretism trait.... but is that really Asatru anymore?

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by sloshalot:

So peace was never an option? :c

I suppose you might be able to reform Asatru with a Christian Syncretism trait.... but is that really Asatru anymore?

Need 3 holy sites. Which is kinda a slight problem when...you know. I've gone on a Vagarian Adventure.