So LGBTQ ruining this game too? Why same-sex marriage?

[Flowery]

Why people are trying to change history to fit the current social norms? In the 3 dominate religions in this time frame, Christianity, Muslim and the Indian religions were violently opposed to same sex relationships.

Realism is one of the strongest and most important element of the Paradox Games. I'm not against same-sex relationships, and there was many cultures in the history which accepted this kind of love - but never ever was gay marriages, exspecially not in the medieval world.

Now I see the 1.5 updates with an image that shows a married christian(!) gay couple.
What is happening? Do we throw historical facts out the window just to fit into a modern political agenda?

[Athmet]

Repeat after me: it is turned off by default on every game. Player can chose to turn it on for their own game if they wish to. Turning it on for your game will not impact the game of others.

Try repeating this multiple time , take some good breath and think again before posting those stupid comments.

Also "realism" where you can create any religion you like or change history totally, is pretty stupid argument to hide homophobia.

[Flowery]

Originally posted by Athmet:

Repeat after me: it is turned off by default on every game. Player can chose to turn it on for their own game if they wish to. Turning it on for your game will not impact the game of others.

Try repeating this multiple time , take some good breath and think again before posting those stupid comments.

Also "realism" where you can create any religion you like or change history totally, is pretty stupid argument to hide homophobia.

Repeat after me: making it optional not making it historical. Yes, create a new religion is historical. Thousands of new cults created every single day. Gay-marriage is NOT.

Repeat this too: what you disagree with is not necessarily homophobic yet. However, the lack of arguments is a clear sign of cowardice and stupidity.

Repeating these doesn't make you smarter, but you can protect yourself from making a public fool of yourself.

[Seijana]

I doubt I'll have it turned on for most of my games but I don't see why it shouldn't be an optional setting. That said, I will be annoyed if you can do it in a religion that shuns or criminalises same sex relationships because that wouldn't make any sense.

[R.T.]

That is the picture of modding tool, example to mod maker they can do it in mods. The default vanilla game with ironman and achievement won't have it.
I just feel pity they wasted such lots of time on it, instead of fixing bugs.

[Athmet]

Originally posted by Flowery:

Originally posted by Athmet:

Repeat after me: it is turned off by default on every game. Player can chose to turn it on for their own game if they wish to. Turning it on for your game will not impact the game of others.

Try repeating this multiple time , take some good breath and think again before posting those stupid comments.

Also "realism" where you can create any religion you like or change history totally, is pretty stupid argument to hide homophobia.

Repeat after me: making it optional not making it historical. Yes, create a new religion is historical. Thousands of new cults created every single day. Gay-marriage is NOT.

Repeat this too: what you disagree with is not necessarily homophobic yet. However, the lack of arguments is a clear sign of cowardice and stupidity.

Repeating these doesn't make you smarter, but you can protect yourself from making a public fool of yourself.

Repeat after me: it is an option turned off by default. Meaning it will not have any impact on your game and you will experience the same historically accuracy you had before the patch goes live than after it goes live.
Even if someone chose to enable it on their game, it will have no impact on your end.

Now if you are triggered by knowing others can do it on their game, then the issue is not on PDX but on you.

[Daonar]

"it is turned off by default on every game"

Why it EVEN EXISTS in the game? For those deviants who can't live with their deviancies there are surely tons of mods.

[Flowery]

Originally posted by Athmet:

Originally posted by Flowery:

Repeat after me: making it optional not making it historical. Yes, create a new religion is historical. Thousands of new cults created every single day. Gay-marriage is NOT.

Repeat this too: what you disagree with is not necessarily homophobic yet. However, the lack of arguments is a clear sign of cowardice and stupidity.

Repeating these doesn't make you smarter, but you can protect yourself from making a public fool of yourself.

Repeat after me: it is an option turned off by default. Meaning it will not have any impact on your game and you will experience the same historically accuracy you had before the patch goes live than after it goes live.
Even if someone chose to enable it on their game, it will have no impact on your end.

Now if you are triggered by knowing others can do it on their game, then the issue is not on PDX but on you.

Fine. Let's make official jew genoicide option too, because there must be a couple of nazi players.
Would you like that too? Or you are nazifobic?

[VoiD]

You guys are missing the bigger picture here.

Paradox is clearly preparing the groundworks for a major aztec invasion DLC followed by mongols riding velociraptors, but first they need to throw history in this historical game into the garbage can, it's not about the crazy cultists that don't even play these games anyway.

[Ogami]

The Crusader King franchise is a series of games where you can have a horse as your court physician, have the Mayas invade Europe, have your wife give birth to the Antichrist, play chess with Death himself, join a witch cult and become immortal, create a religion where everyone in the world worships trees and runs around naked all the time. Just to name a few.
Thats all ok with the " its about historical accuracy!" crowd.

But the "gays" getting a optional game rule that does not affect your own game AT all in ANY form, THAT is a step too far and ruins the game.
I see.

Well, more fodder for my Steam ban list, openly shown stupidity should be rewarded.

[Flowery]

Originally posted by Ogami:

The Crusader King franchise is a series of games where you can have a horse as your court physician, have the Mayas invade Europe, have your wife give birth to the Antichrist, play chess with Death himself, join a witch cult and become immortal, create a religion where everyone in the world worships trees and runs around naked all the time. Just to name a few.
Thats all ok with the " its about historical accuracy!" crowd.

But the "gays" getting a optional game rule that does not affect your own game AT all in ANY form, THAT is a step too far and ruins the game.
I see.

Well, more fodder for my Steam ban list, openly shown stupidity should be rewarded.

Another activist.

I’m talking about CK3, in which you can’t do anything that COULDN'T HAVE happened in the history - I mean, staying on the ground of reality.

Becoming an emperor as a low noble? It happened. Kill the pope and destroy Christianity? There was many attempt. Exterminate cultures? Many times.
Gay marriage? At the state level, it could never have happened until the 20th century.

On the other hand, you don’t have to pretend it’s not even the result of left-wing political influence on the game - you’ve been pushing this propaganda for years, and more and more people are obey... Only hypocrisy and denial of the facts are the most disgusting of all.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Ogami:

The Crusader King franchise is a series of games where you can have a horse as your court physician, have the Mayas invade Europe, have your wife give birth to the Antichrist, play chess with Death himself, join a witch cult and become immortal, create a religion where everyone in the world worships trees and runs around naked all the time. Just to name a few.
Thats all ok with the " its about historical accuracy!" crowd.

But the "gays" getting a optional game rule that does not affect your own game AT all in ANY form, THAT is a step too far and ruins the game.
I see.

Well, more fodder for my Steam ban list, openly shown stupidity should be rewarded.

All of those things are based in history (except for the aztec invasion, which was not well received in CK2, at all) and the beliefs of people at the time, in fact even the pope wrote about bipedal walking cat statues and frogs that turned into men and their cults.

What doesn't make any sense, whatsoever, however, is a game about dynasties, breeding perfect heirs while marrying for political gains to have flexibe marriages that do not fulfil ANY of the reasons people used to get married at the time whatsoever.

The aztec invasion is way closer to history than this.

That being said, I gotta ask, why would you think that anyone else would care about how you decide to ban yourself from the actual conversations with people? because that's all your "ban list" accomplishes.

PS: Given the inheritance issue was the biggest, major issue with playing teocracies in CK2 given by Paradox, I suppose this could have a "positive" side, after all, now they have no excuse not to let people play as the pope, or include a playable China on the map, right?

[Athmet]

Originally posted by VoiD:

What doesn't make any sense, whatsoever, however, is a game about dynasties, breeding perfect heirs while marrying for political gains to have flexibe marriages that do not fulfil ANY of the reasons people used to get married at the time whatsoever.

Reason why the option is turned off by default. Not impacting your game at all.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Athmet:

Originally posted by VoiD:

What doesn't make any sense, whatsoever, however, is a game about dynasties, breeding perfect heirs while marrying for political gains to have flexibe marriages that do not fulfil ANY of the reasons people used to get married at the time whatsoever.

Reason why the option is turned off by default. Not impacting your game at all.

Yes, but that's not important, or relevant, it's the fact that it was made, the reason why,the game in which it was made, and why we're not getting actual content instead, like playable theocracy.

[VoiD]

Oh, one more thing, the Aztec invasion was also optional in 2 layers, eventually 3

1: You could not buy the DLC
2: You could disable the DLC
3: Afterwards you didn't need to disable the DLC, as you could turn off or even change the dates and settings of the game before you started.

Didn't make people any less angry about this content being introduced in their historical game, with good reason. Don't think of this as something "special", it is not.

[Aldodrem]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Originally posted by Athmet:

Reason why the option is turned off by default. Not impacting your game at all.

Yes, but that's not important, or relevant, it's the fact that it was made, the reason why,the game in which it was made, and why we're not getting actual content instead, like playable theocracy.

LMFAO. A rule option is the reason a game mechanic isn't being implemented into the game, okay.

The thing I loved about CKii that all the other Paradox games whiffed on BIG time was the amazing game rule options we had. You could turn on/off or increase/decrease just about every little thing possible (which is why I think the game was a HUGE RolePlaying success). & now because CKiii wants to add another game rule option people are getting all hell bent out of shape, literally hilarious.