easiest empire to form?

[smtree01]

im a noob and want to know whats the easiest empire to form

[Toblm]

Francia from 867.
Britannia is pretty easy too.

[PostalGibbon]

Start 867 as Charles the bald King of France. You own France, Aquitaine, Burgundy and you need to only conquer Brittany to form Empire of Francia.

Start 867 as Arpad and conquer Hungary and then Moldavia and Wallachia to make Empire of Carpathia.

[CrUsHeR]

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/List_of_empires

Sort this by number of kingdoms (ascending)


Ajuraan is definitely the easiest to form from scratch. Only 2 kingdoms, start as Muslim in Mogadishu.

[smtree01]

ive tried as france, but the problem is i cant defeat haistiene, any way to do that straight away?

[dwarfpcfan]

Baltic Empire, it's 3 very small kingdoms, easiest empire to form by far.

[SirChaos77]

Originally posted by smtree01:

ive tried as france, but the problem is i cant defeat haistiene, any way to do that straight away?

Leave Haestein alone, unless he suffers the bad luck of losing a lot of his troops. Not taking Montaigu just means you need to take one additional county of Brittany in order to form the empire.

Oh, and don´t forget to take Leon, unless they´re allied to Haestein.

[smtree01]

wait, i need leon?

[jpcerutti]

Originally posted by smtree01:

wait, i need leon?

The one in Brittany, not the one in Spain.

[Novia]

Originally posted by smtree01:

ive tried as france, but the problem is i cant defeat haistiene, any way to do that straight away?

Haesteinn tends to have a fairly hostile court at the start and focuses a lot on England (excluding the times he randomly becomes an adventurer now), so you might be able to do him in that way. His heir won't be nearly as dangerous.

Charles the Bald tends to have a decent chance (if a bit expensive depending on RNG, french catholic spymaster in Haesteinn's court is a really good outcome), plus they are rivals, you need to be swift as he will snowball if left alone, possibly triggering the crusades.

[SirChaos77]

Originally posted by smtree01:

wait, i need leon?

You don´t *need* it, it´s just that, you can conquer it without having to forge a claim, since its ruler is pagan, and that it counts towards the number of counties you need, just like the counties owned by Brittany do.

[Сааребас]

Custom Empire, Sardinia/Crete/Cyprus

[angel of derp]

Italia? As Louis the Younger, conquer Corsica & Sardinia. That should get you near the requirement to form Empire of Italia, along with the Muslim pieces in southern Italy & Sicily.

Defeating Haesteinn? On his first adventure (usually up to Britain), Holy War his single County in Montaigu. Game over for him.

[Reaper King]

I would advise Batlic as well in 867 start date. Very small, very nicely put together, bunch of weak kingdoms to clown on. Oh and by the time you are done forming your empire you will also almost certainly have conquered all of the vildist holy sites giving you max bonuses from religion.