Is it Just me or is Landless Gameplay Kinda awful?

[Maddy]

I feel like it is just me basically sitting around on 5 speed waiting for Random Popups I Can't build a reputation among Families or A reputation in a region or among a Culture It Just feels very Half baked?

[Lera]

Originally posted by ShepherdOfCats:

In my experience you either feel like a traveling circus moving from town to town doing contracts, or you go the mercenary route and beat up the world with your army of demi-god men-at-arms and knights. And the buffs that your character gets are absolutely insane.

Yes, adventuring is completely broken and OP compared to everything else and it's stupid as hell.

[Ashling]

Originally posted by SeiFeR:

This guy is obviously a noob, i'm pretty sure he has no clue.

It came out less than a month ago. We're all noobs to the content

[Adrian]

I've been playing landless in single player for about 30 hours now with all different camp styles, and after a while all of them get kind of repetitive when it comes to what you do at any holding you're visiting. I enjoyed the scholar the most, spreading religious chaos, but even that gets a little boring after a while.

I will say though, for multiplayer, landless is very fun. At least in my games where we mess with each other a lot.

With that being said, in my opinion, you should always aim for getting landed at some point during the first couple of generations, or the gameplay might get stale. Landless brings so many more ways of getting landed, so I see it mainly as a system for that.

[Lera]

Landless still isn't at the bottom of the chain, landless can literally become so strong (especially in MP) where they have a bigger army than actual kings which is nonsense.

[Fitzy]

Some of the contracts you get are basically just sitting waiting, the trouble I find is having to wait for a couple of months at 100% complete chance just because you don't have enough "advantages" or whatever they're called. Perform in a play, Regale court could have been wit events like with the tournaments where you regale a crowd with your word play. Instead they're sit and wait for key missions.

I like how they changed the agents for schemes, yet needing keys for something that you can't fail, that's just stretching time for the sake of it. I feel they've started out with swords for hire, got that working pretty well then realised it was nearly Christmas and fired the rest of it in there with "sit and wait on a resource" gameplay mechanic that they seem to be fixed on now. Definitely scope in there for a better use of a players time and make it much more engaging. Who wants to "regale a court" for a year? What part of telling a story involves collecting keys?

As others have said you can't really sit and work for one person, you might get lucky getting a lot of missions for the same person yet, it's better to move around, I start out in the north east corner of the map, I pick up horse archers, move south pick of elephants and Chinese archers can get good heavy horse over there too, move yourself around all the places with interesting men at arms and fill up with them.

[Myth Alric]

It is true in general, that the game is boring if you don't have any goals. You need some goals even if you are a landless adventure. My goal was I was trying to get the king of the byzantine empire as my patron, because I notice there was an option to buy an estate from him if he is your patron.

I was kind of curious how that works.

[Kfk1999]

Originally posted by Maddy:

I feel like it is just me basically sitting around on 5 speed waiting for Random Popups I Can't build a reputation among Families or A reputation in a region or among a Culture It Just feels very Half baked?

i dont think you are playing it right i think this dlc im am never not doing something, to meet with other rulers you have to move your camp to their land

[ShepherdOfCats]

I was able to create a hellenic Roman character, starting in Tuscany as an adventurer. I chose the option with no followers to start.

Given the situation I put myself in, you would think that would be an incredibly challenging start.

In one ruler's lifetime I was able to take the Pope's land with an army of about 2,200 men at arms.

It feels weird that I'm actually weaker, now that I'm landed. I didn't fear the Pope before. But now I'm just waiting on that crusade.

[Cat]

I think part of the problem with landless MAA is that they have barely any cost to them. Yes you pay to make them, but upkeep is non existent and food is not exactly that hard to get.

[Lera]

Originally posted by ShepherdOfCats:

I was able to create a hellenic Roman character, starting in Tuscany as an adventurer. I chose the option with no followers to start.

Given the situation I put myself in, you would think that would be an incredibly challenging start.

In one ruler's lifetime I was able to take the Pope's land with an army of about 2,200 men at arms.

It feels weird that I'm actually weaker, now that I'm landed. I didn't fear the Pope before. But now I'm just waiting on that crusade.

Yes, unlanded is completely broken and OP and a downgrade to becoming landed