Is it Just me or is Landless Gameplay Kinda awful?

[Maddy]

I feel like it is just me basically sitting around on 5 speed waiting for Random Popups I Can't build a reputation among Families or A reputation in a region or among a Culture It Just feels very Half baked?

[chAnt1cs]

just move your camp man

[Bordric]

Originally posted by Maddy:

I feel like it is just me basically sitting around on 5 speed waiting for Random Popups I Can't build a reputation among Families or A reputation in a region or among a Culture It Just feels very Half baked?

Do you sit in the same place all the time? Yeah move....

[Maddy]

Originally posted by chAnt1cs:

just move your camp man

That Does not really Addres my criticism with the Landless Gameplay though.. you are mostly doing the same Contracts Over and Over and over again With no real benefit outside of Immediate Gain in the form of Gold or something.. I Just had hoped for more Longer Lasting benefits like If I kept doing stuff for a specific Patron There was something deeper to it One Proud Bavarian pointed this out in his reviews and I largely agree..

[Maddy]

Originally posted by Bordric:

Originally posted by Maddy:

I feel like it is just me basically sitting around on 5 speed waiting for Random Popups I Can't build a reputation among Families or A reputation in a region or among a Culture It Just feels very Half baked?

Do you sit in the same place all the time? Yeah move....

But Even if I move its just the same like 4 Contracts on repeat.. No Variety No Flavor No Real benefit to Doing multiple contracts for the same Lord.

[Ashling]

Originally posted by Maddy:

Originally posted by chAnt1cs:

just move your camp man

That Does not really Addres my criticism with the Landless Gameplay though.. you are mostly doing the same Contracts Over and Over and over again With no real benefit outside of Immediate Gain in the form of Gold or something.. I Just had hoped for more Longer Lasting benefits like If I kept doing stuff for a specific Patron There was something deeper to it One Proud Bavarian pointed this out in his reviews and I largely agree..

You can earn hooks which can be exchanged for marrying into their family. There's also a way, I've heard, to buy land or become landed by them? I've only just conquered using the camp upgrade features though so idk maybe marrying into them gives you a better likelihood of becoming landed (edit: or maybe you have to find a way to get a claim?)

Also, yeah, moving your camp is a good thing

[ShepherdOfCats]

In my experience you either feel like a traveling circus moving from town to town doing contracts, or you go the mercenary route and beat up the world with your army of demi-god men-at-arms and knights. And the buffs that your character gets are absolutely insane.

[JackSlader]

I personally prefer Landless over the traditional way, especially since i can acquire land later on which makes it much more interesting.

I've played ck 2 for thousands of hours, perhaps that's why i'm getting tired of the traditional gameplay.

It does need more variety in contracts also the contracts does not seem to affect the world state apart from the mercenary contracts.

[identity]

I think the most important thing is that it was added successfully, which opens up a LOT of doors for content, so give it some time. I'm sure modders will add in a ton of cool stuff, too.

[Cat]

It's a bit repetitive if you're playing it as your whole thing, it is more like an alternative way to start the game and then become landed to continue playing the game. If your goal is to just be landless all game then you will quickly run out of content to do, as there isn't a lot of events or anything, but if you use it to just run around the map and get gold and bonuses then it's not so bad. I usually spend at most 1 or 2 generations as landless to get some of the benefits before getting landed either by buying or other means, then play as normal.

[Harris]

Landless IS "awful" and "half-baked". Like, that's the whole point. Look at the title. It says Crusader Kings there. There was no way to make landless gameplay that would not clash with the rest of the game AND within the scope of a single DLC - well actually half the DLC, since most of it is about Byzantium. I was kinda talking about this for months before release, but nobody listened ^_^

Landless works well as a setup for your playthrough. For example, I'd normally start as Rurik and spend a few decades raiding, amassing tons of gold and then doing a Varangian adventure to Kyiv, or maybe Frence depending on the mood.

And now, I have options:
- I can go grab myself some weird culture from India to hybridize with what I have at home
- I can travel around the world to write a book that gives a whopping +40% lifestyle xp to my heirs
- I can bypass the two farmlands slots in Kyiv normally becoming city and church upon going feudal by building castles there

And these are just the most obvious "scratching the surface" ones.

[Villo]

@SeiFeR always good to insult people because of opinions and profile pics.

[eoozy]

It's fun but gets boring fast, its probably more fun for those who like to get insane buffs and armies that kill everything. Atleast now you can continue playing even if you lose all your titles, as an adventurer. And trying to get your lands back while in exile feels fun, or even buying a county from another realm and then building up and taking back your former lands.

Wish we could play as an advisor or something instead of just wandering for contracts, you could get missions, similar to contracts and try to manage the liege's realm, getting rewards or punishment depending on how you do. I dunno if the game already has it, but joining the Varangian Guard would be a good early game for a viking playthrough.

[Otterking]

Originally posted by eoozy:

Wish we could play as an advisor or something instead of just wandering for contracts, you could get missions, similar to contracts and try to manage the liege's realm, getting rewards or punishment depending on how you do. I dunno if the game already has it, but joining the Varangian Guard would be a good early game for a viking playthrough.

Yeah i wish landless wasn't soo... "landless" lol. Like being a traveling band of hobos living in a tent should totally be a playstyle but they missed a huge opportunity to let us serve lords as advisors, knights or to let us play as minor nobles with estates. I still want something akin to the Romance of the three kingdoms games where you can play as a warlords officer and work you way up to being given land to govern. I really like the idea of being a loyal general or knight and being rewarded for it.

[ShepherdOfCats]

Originally posted by Otterton:

Yeah i wish landless wasn't soo... "landless" lol. Like being a traveling band of hobos living in a tent should totally be a playstyle but they missed a huge opportunity to let us serve lords as advisors, knights or to let us play as minor nobles with estates.

At this point I don't think they're ever going to let us serve as knights. They've had 4 years to implement it. And I'm just as disappointed as you are.

[EmacInSTL]

I find landless so fun. Playing the traditional way, I usually start as a count, eventually rise up to an emperor, then can just dominate any neighbors I want and it's pretty easy and gets boring. After a while it gets so easy and there's nothing else to do but get bogged down. This provides new challenges and unique gameplay. I spread my religion or cause chaos in different regions and find new people to recruit, move on and keep finding new stuff to do. Sometimes I'll take some land and put someone else in charge and start a new camp over again.