Any way to reduce the cost of unraised maa?

[Salem Graves]

My unraised maa are currently costing me 15.5 gold and I'm wondering if there's a way to reduce this besides reducing how many I have? Also no, they're not reinforcing.

[identity]

I assumed that was men at arms maintenance, which is on several different military buildings, maybe others.

[Salem Graves]

Originally posted by id:

I assumed that was men at arms maintenance, which is on several different military buildings, maybe others.

Guess that's my problem. I rarely buy military buildings. Gotta get that tax!

[identity]

I generally do the best tax building for the first slot, military + fortifications on the second and third slots, and then blacksmith for the fourth slot. Any other slots after that are generally other tax buildings. Whatever military buildings I build depend on whatever unit will station there. I always look for Regimental Grounds, too, and sometimes double up with that in addition to the military building. Think they only go on plains or farmland or something similar.

[Half-lidded Bruiser]

Originally posted by Unremarkable Sloth:

Guess that's my problem. I rarely buy military buildings. Gotta get that tax!

Rookie mistake. You build economic buildings in holdings you give to vassals. NPCs don't replace buildings, so they'll keep upgrading those economic buildings indefinitely, and giving you a cut of the profits. This keeps them militarily weak, easy to reign in if they ever rebel. You build military buildings in holdings you intend to keep, to slap down any military threat, domestic or foreign.

[identity]

That would also have the added benefit of somewhat rich vassals for money tours.

[SWIFT]

Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:

Originally posted by Unremarkable Sloth:

Guess that's my problem. I rarely buy military buildings. Gotta get that tax!

Rookie mistake. You build economic buildings in holdings you give to vassals. NPCs don't replace buildings, so they'll keep upgrading those economic buildings indefinitely, and giving you a cut of the profits. This keeps them militarily weak, easy to reign in if they ever rebel. You build military buildings in holdings you intend to keep, to slap down any military threat, domestic or foreign.

dude. I never thought about this and I have 100 hrs (Im ♥♥♥♥). I'll give this a try

[Dizzy Ladybug]

There's a perk on the left side of the stewardship tree - Fearful Troops - that lowers MAA monthly costs based on your dread. I think at 100 dread you can get -50% MAA cost per month. Once you have vassals, if you need money go into Stewardship for 5-10 years and get this perk + This is MY Domain to extort your subjects for easy cash.

[Team Triss]

Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:

Originally posted by Unremarkable Sloth:

Guess that's my problem. I rarely buy military buildings. Gotta get that tax!

Rookie mistake. You build economic buildings in holdings you give to vassals. NPCs don't replace buildings, so they'll keep upgrading those economic buildings indefinitely, and giving you a cut of the profits. This keeps them militarily weak, easy to reign in if they ever rebel. You build military buildings in holdings you intend to keep, to slap down any military threat, domestic or foreign.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Machiavellli over here.

This is brilliant.

[PostalGibbon]

Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:

Originally posted by Unremarkable Sloth:

Guess that's my problem. I rarely buy military buildings. Gotta get that tax!

Rookie mistake. You build economic buildings in holdings you give to vassals. NPCs don't replace buildings, so they'll keep upgrading those economic buildings indefinitely, and giving you a cut of the profits. This keeps them militarily weak, easy to reign in if they ever rebel. You build military buildings in holdings you intend to keep, to slap down any military threat, domestic or foreign.

Or you could build your own domain full of gold income + two or three mandatory military building (depending what MAA is stationed in which county) and get filthy rich and shower your vassals with gold gifts if they get cranky and if that does not work then buy every mercenary army and crush opposition under your iron fist.

Why would you build example farm & fields with your own gold to you vassal territory and get 10% of the 0,8 gold by feudal contract tax when you can build it to your domain and get full 0,8 for yourself?

By the same logic now your vassal have good gold income and weak army and they just compensate army weakness by buying mercenaries with gold. You can see that with Pope he prints mercenaries nonstop because of the gold bank if he ever gets attacked.

[jpcerutti]

Originally posted by Team Triss:

Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:

Rookie mistake. You build economic buildings in holdings you give to vassals. NPCs don't replace buildings, so they'll keep upgrading those economic buildings indefinitely, and giving you a cut of the profits. This keeps them militarily weak, easy to reign in if they ever rebel. You build military buildings in holdings you intend to keep, to slap down any military threat, domestic or foreign.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Machiavellli over here.

This is brilliant.

If you're going to admire 'The Prince', don't half-a** it. :) Dread will reduce troop maintenance costs as well as 'solve' many issues with courtiers, vassals, and peers.

If you cannot be loved, be feared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WxHT-0Gn7o

[olstar18]

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

There's a perk on the left side of the stewardship tree - Fearful Troops - that lowers MAA monthly costs based on your dread. I think at 100 dread you can get -50% MAA cost per month. Once you have vassals, if you need money go into Stewardship for 5-10 years and get this perk + This is MY Domain to extort your subjects for easy cash.

Never had much use for that one. However golden obligations combined with some judicious use of find secrets is a pretty effective way of getting extra cash. Also has the added benefit of giving you hooks for other purposes like removing a problematic vassal from a faction that was getting progress towards rebelling while I was in the middle of defending against a crusade.