Conqueror Trait Questions

[Helfdan3]

so i have an ally who has the conqueror trait, but no matter what i cant even call them in to support me.. any reason why that i may be missing? id really like my ally to help me against the 50k byzantine im dealing with non stop as serbia lol

[Сааребас]

The conquerer trait has nothing to do with that ruler supporting you in (a) war.
Maybe slightly indirectly due to troop-count, money or opinion.

What's more important are personality traits (e.g. ambitious, content, etc, etc).
Even more important is that rulers opinion of you, that rulers opinion of the enemy ruler.
Is your ally already fighting other wars?


If you're having troubles keeping your head above water against the Byzzies.
I would suggest to submit to the Byz emperor and either conquer from within or ferment a revolt for independence with other vassals.
Perhaps even a dissolution faction.
You may also try to submit to a powerful enemy of the Byz empire and do the same.

[A Random Etruscan Noble]

Originally posted by Сааребас:

If you're having troubles keeping your head above water against the Byzzies.
I would suggest to submit to the Byz emperor and either conquer from within or ferment a revolt for independence with other vassals.
Perhaps even a dissolution faction.
You may also try to submit to a powerful enemy of the Byz empire and do the same.

If he has Roads to Power this is no longer a viable tactic against the Byzantines or any Administrative empire for that matter as Independence (unless you are Feudal) and Dissolution factions are disabled nor can you conquer land from any Administrative vassal

[Helfdan3]

Originally posted by Сааребас:

The conquerer trait has nothing to do with that ruler supporting you in (a) war.
Maybe slightly indirectly due to troop-count, money or opinion.

What's more important are personality traits (e.g. ambitious, content, etc, etc).
Even more important is that rulers opinion of you, that rulers opinion of the enemy ruler.
Is your ally already fighting other wars?


If you're having troubles keeping your head above water against the Byzzies.
I would suggest to submit to the Byz emperor and either conquer from within or ferment a revolt for independence with other vassals.
Perhaps even a dissolution faction.
You may also try to submit to a powerful enemy of the Byz empire and do the same.

well funnily enough i get a -900 acceptance to call him into my war because he has the conqueror trait

[Mr.Android]

You get a -1000 penalty if your ally is a conqueror. is there any explanation why?

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[Сааребас]

Originally posted by Helfdan3:

Originally posted by Сааребас:

The conquerer trait has nothing to do with that ruler supporting you in (a) war.
Maybe slightly indirectly due to troop-count, money or opinion.

What's more important are personality traits (e.g. ambitious, content, etc, etc).
Even more important is that rulers opinion of you, that rulers opinion of the enemy ruler.
Is your ally already fighting other wars?


If you're having troubles keeping your head above water against the Byzzies.
I would suggest to submit to the Byz emperor and either conquer from within or ferment a revolt for independence with other vassals.
Perhaps even a dissolution faction.
You may also try to submit to a powerful enemy of the Byz empire and do the same.

well funnily enough i get a -900 acceptance to call him into my war because he has the conqueror trait

It seems that you are right and I was wrong.

Apologies for my misinformed comment.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Helfdan3:

so i have an ally who has the conqueror trait, but no matter what i cant even call them in to support me.. any reason why that i may be missing? id really like my ally to help me against the 50k byzantine im dealing with non stop as serbia lol

Simply give him the Bubonic Plague with the Debug Interactions, this will take care of him, very quickly, then you can call his Heir to your War, unless of course you have the Game Rule in place, who allows the Conqueror Trait to be inherited, then this will not work.

If this Game Rule is in place, you have to conquer his entire Realm yourself, to make him lose the Trait, but since it is still an stupid AI and the AI does not really know, how to play the Game, it should be very easy to defeat him, even with the many Benefits from the Trait, the AI is still very weak.