Anyone know why vassal contracts seem to be changing on their own?

[Mentos]

As the title asks, occasionally I go to check my vassal contracts to make sure I have forced partition on them and I notice that the contracts changed. Some of them have their tax laws randomly set to extortionate or high, others the partition law was removed, most of them seem to get the fortification rights removed.

Normally I'd figure I might have missed the writing on an event but this is pretty wide spread across my realm. It's mostly dukes, so there is no one else that could be changing these contracts, and no there hasn't been any hook changes made unless the game simply didn't bother to tell me about it (not sure why they would increase their taxes anyway). But that would be alot of hooks throughout every one of my ruler's lifetimes. I'm having to fix their contracts pretty frequently.

[mutantmuppet]

have you done nay court events where they ask for something and you grant it but in return for something? That something is usually an increase in their tax / levies etc

[Mentos]

Originally posted by mutantmuppet:

have you done nay court events where they ask for something and you grant it but in return for something? That something is usually an increase in their tax / levies etc

Not in this case. I've agreed to those a couple of times during this play through and they were all to lower taxes. These contracts have increased taxes, removed partition, and removed fortification rights. I've also seen revocation protection added. It's happening with the majority of my vassals.

[Purest Warrior]

Your regent might change your vassals' contracts, if you are away from the realm.

[Mentos]

Originally posted by Purest Warrior:

Your regent might change your vassals' contracts, if you are away from the realm.

Wait I get a regent when I travel?

[Purest Warrior]

Originally posted by Mentos:

Originally posted by Purest Warrior:

Your regent might change your vassals' contracts, if you are away from the realm.

Wait I get a regent when I travel?

If you leave your realm, yes, ie. travel to another country.

You can designate your regent's focus (and your regent) during a regency.

Edit for clarity: You can change what the regent does during his/her regency. You should do this before the regency starts.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by Mentos:

Originally posted by Purest Warrior:

Your regent might change your vassals' contracts, if you are away from the realm.

Wait I get a regent when I travel?

Yes. Also, vassals can change their own contracts if they hold a hook on you

[dwarfpcfan]

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Yes. Also, vassals can change their own contracts if they hold a hook on you

Also Also, if a vassal usurps/up stages a vassal taking over his title, if that rat managed to work his way into a better vassal contract and now is your direct vassal you are stuck with his better vassal contract.

Any vassals you inherit also keep whatever assanine vassal contract they may have had with the weakling you ground under you boot to take his realm because apparently that's how vassal contracts work.

[Mentos]

Originally posted by Purest Warrior:

Originally posted by Mentos:

Wait I get a regent when I travel?

If you leave your realm, yes, ie. travel to another country.

You can designate your regent's focus (and your regent) during a regency.

What if I'm within my own kingdom? I've only left my realm once and that was awhile back. Contracts have been changed behind my back several times since then.

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Originally posted by Mentos:

Wait I get a regent when I travel?

Yes. Also, vassals can change their own contracts if they hold a hook on you

Yes I'm aware of this one, I know it's not the case though purely based on numbers. Nearly every vassal in the realm is changing their contracts in multiple categories. It's never just one thing either. It's usually 2-3 changes per contract.

[Mentos]

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Yes. Also, vassals can change their own contracts if they hold a hook on you

Also Also, if a vassal usurps/up stages a vassal taking over his title, if that rat managed to work his way into a better vassal contract and now is your direct vassal you are stuck with his better vassal contract.

Any vassals you inherit also keep whatever assanine vassal contract they may have had with the weakling you ground under you boot to take his realm because apparently that's how vassal contracts work.

That could account for 1 or 2 of them over the last century, but not all of them. I'm talking on a large scale, almost every single vassal has 2 or 3 changes, every few decades it seems.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by Mentos:

Originally posted by Purest Warrior:

If you leave your realm, yes, ie. travel to another country.

You can designate your regent's focus (and your regent) during a regency.

What if I'm within my own kingdom? I've only left my realm once and that was awhile back. Contracts have been changed behind my back several times since then.

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Yes. Also, vassals can change their own contracts if they hold a hook on you

Yes I'm aware of this one, I know it's not the case though purely based on numbers. Nearly every vassal in the realm is changing their contracts in multiple categories. It's never just one thing either. It's usually 2-3 changes per contract.

If you leave your capital, you get a regent

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Yes. Also, vassals can change their own contracts if they hold a hook on you

Also Also, if a vassal usurps/up stages a vassal taking over his title, if that rat managed to work his way into a better vassal contract and now is your direct vassal you are stuck with his better vassal contract.

Any vassals you inherit also keep whatever assanine vassal contract they may have had with the weakling you ground under you boot to take his realm because apparently that's how vassal contracts work.

What's wrong with that? If the count of sussex takes over the duchy of kent, why should he not inherit the contract of the duchy of kent?

[Mentos]

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Originally posted by Mentos:

What if I'm within my own kingdom? I've only left my realm once and that was awhile back. Contracts have been changed behind my back several times since then.





Yes I'm aware of this one, I know it's not the case though purely based on numbers. Nearly every vassal in the realm is changing their contracts in multiple categories. It's never just one thing either. It's usually 2-3 changes per contract.

If you leave your capital, you get a regent

Then that has to be it. That's a bit frustrating, the regent is then changing every contract in the entire realm. Kinda makes traveling a non-option.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by Mentos:

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

If you leave your capital, you get a regent

Then that has to be it. That's a bit frustrating, the regent is then changing every contract in the entire realm. Kinda makes traveling a non-option.

Get a better regent

[Purest Warrior]

Originally posted by Mentos:

Originally posted by Purest Warrior:

If you leave your realm, yes, ie. travel to another country.

You can designate your regent's focus (and your regent) during a regency.

What if I'm within my own kingdom? I've only left my realm once and that was awhile back. Contracts have been changed behind my back several times since then.

No regency, if you travel within your own realm or your vassals' lands.

I think what's been happening is what dwarfpcfan said.

[Mentos]

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Originally posted by Mentos:

Then that has to be it. That's a bit frustrating, the regent is then changing every contract in the entire realm. Kinda makes traveling a non-option.

Get a better regent

How do i do that? I'm new to the game since traveling was added.