I've lost all of my holdings upon death

[Evan]

As the Emperor of Abyssinia (containing 4 kingdoms), I've carefully managed to have just one single male heir before I died. I own a 6 domain demesne (1 capital domain and another 5 domains under a duchy elsewhere ) and I owned all king titles of my kingdom

Upon death, however, instead of my heir taking my place, the empire fragmented and my heir ended up owning just the capital domain.. wtf happened, I'm pretty sure the succession tab clearly showed my heir getting everything - but Instead he ended up with the emperor and 4 kingdom titles under a single demesne, everyone else got released including my core duchy

Anything like that happened to any of you ?

[Bloodartist]

You can only leave most of your holdings to a single heir if you have researched and passed primogeniture law. And newsflash: its late medieval innovation so its not going to be available early. Without primogeniture though, your holdings get divided more or less equally between your heirs.

Kingdoms you had will be divided to your heirs and will turn independent unless you have an emperor rank that your main heir would inherit (in which case the new kings would become your vassals).

Emperor -> King -> duke -> count

Yep, inheriting stuff is very complicated in this game. :P

[jerrypocalypse]

Who got the other titles? Do some of the titles have election laws?

[Evan]

Originally posted by Bloodartist:

You can only leave most of your holdings to a single heir if you have researched and passed primogeniture law. And newsflash: its late medieval innovation so its not going to be available early. Without primogeniture though, your holdings get divided more or less equally between your heirs.

Kingdoms you had will be divided to your heirs and will turn independent unless you have an emperor rank that your main heir would inherit (in which case the new kings would become your vassals).

Emperor -> King -> duke -> count

Yep, inheriting stuff is very complicated in this game. :P

Yes but I had a single heir who was supposed to inherit the empire rank title. He did, but all duchy titles below were gone upon succession ...

[Evan]

Originally posted by jerrypocalypse:

Who got the other titles? Do some of the titles have election laws?

The dukes got all of the titles below emperor's, it's as if they were all released upon succession.

[Bloodartist]

Originally posted by Evan:

The dukes got all of the titles below emperor's, it's as if they were all released upon succession.

But they are still your vassals, yes?

[PostalGibbon]

If your inheritance tab shows only one heir there is no way that any realm or title split happens in inheritance.

Only way that you don't inherit all with one heir is that your kingdom or duchy titles have election laws and somebody else is voted to inherit. (which the inheritance tabs show, you see all titles your heir inherits and show titles that have elections and who is winning those elections atm).

Or your titles have man or woman preferred law and your heir is opposed sex.

Picture of inheritance tab prior of the death of your current ruler would make everything easier to explain what is happening or if there is actually some error in inheritance.
And picture of after the death and list who inherited titles that should have been going to your heir but did not.
And picture of your prior ruler that show titles and if there is special laws on those titles.

[Evan]

There's no rational explanation for losing all of my previous ruler's imperial vassals upon death. Specifically for the person who seems to have inherited my former demesne, you can see in this screenshot how he becomes independent upon the emperor's death. In his character memories I get "I became ruler of that chiefdom" on the same date.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3284036701

This should have been my only son and heir, a single male heir on a Male Preference Confederate Partition.

But in addition to that, all of my former imperial vassals, and even their vassals, have been released into independent duchies and counties. No one is subject to anyone anymore in my former domain.

One weird thing that happened is how during my previous ruler's lifetime I got a message that my family was now a clan, and I got clan functions in my house tab. I am not sure as how that happened as I started from tribal - although I suppose my domain contained all tribal, feudal and clan domains - Abyssinia tends to be like that.

[Bloodartist]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/kfp1nm/confederate_partition_guide_for_the_succession/

[AdmiralPiett]

Always a good idea to take a look at the succession tab to see how it's going to break down upon your death before it's too late

[PostalGibbon]

Originally posted by Evan:

There's no rational explanation for losing all of my previous ruler's imperial vassals upon death. Specifically for the person who seems to have inherited my former demesne, you can see in this screenshot how he becomes independent upon the emperor's death. In his character memories I get "I became ruler of that chiefdom" on the same date.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3284036701

This should have been my only son and heir, a single male heir on a Male Preference Confederate Partition.

But in addition to that, all of my former imperial vassals, and even their vassals, have been released into independent duchies and counties. No one is subject to anyone anymore in my former domain.

One weird thing that happened is how during my previous ruler's lifetime I got a message that my family was now a clan, and I got clan functions in my house tab. I am not sure as how that happened as I started from tribal - although I suppose my domain contained all tribal, feudal and clan domains - Abyssinia tends to be like that.

In the picture you posted was High King Stratokles your father or grand father?
Because he is dynasty Ptolemid however your character/heir is Mushaggarid meaning he is bastard and found own dynasty/house by inheriting a title.

Your heir always has to be your dynasty (in this case Ptolemid) if bastard inherits they become own house. You should have legitimized your bastard son before the death of your ruler or before your bastard son got his first child because that also makes bastard a own house instead of being fathers dynasty.

Or your heir is bastard by inheriting his mothers family name, you did not say "wait the child is mine" when that bastard son was born and thus he inherited his mothers family name and is not right heir for Ptolemid dynasty.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by PostalGibbon:

Originally posted by Evan:

There's no rational explanation for losing all of my previous ruler's imperial vassals upon death. Specifically for the person who seems to have inherited my former demesne, you can see in this screenshot how he becomes independent upon the emperor's death. In his character memories I get "I became ruler of that chiefdom" on the same date.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3284036701

This should have been my only son and heir, a single male heir on a Male Preference Confederate Partition.

But in addition to that, all of my former imperial vassals, and even their vassals, have been released into independent duchies and counties. No one is subject to anyone anymore in my former domain.

One weird thing that happened is how during my previous ruler's lifetime I got a message that my family was now a clan, and I got clan functions in my house tab. I am not sure as how that happened as I started from tribal - although I suppose my domain contained all tribal, feudal and clan domains - Abyssinia tends to be like that.

In the picture you posted was High King Stratokles your father or grand father?
Because he is dynasty Ptolemid however your character/heir is Mushaggarid meaning he is bastard and found own dynasty/house by inheriting a title.

Your heir always has to be your dynasty (in this case Ptolemid) if bastard inherits they become own house. You should have legitimized your bastard son before the death of your ruler or before your bastard son got his first child because that also makes bastard a own house instead of being fathers dynasty.

Or your heir is bastard by inheriting his mothers family name, you did not say "wait the child is mine" when that bastard son was born and thus he inherited his mothers family name and is not right heir for Ptolemid dynasty.

If all of this happened to OP because of a matrilineal marriage that's hilarious NGL

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Player characters don't have opinions of themselves so that chief isn't the player.

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Evan:

As the Emperor of Abyssinia (containing 4 kingdoms), I've carefully managed to have just one single male heir before I died. I own a 6 domain demesne (1 capital domain and another 5 domains under a duchy elsewhere ) and I owned all king titles of my kingdom

Upon death, however, instead of my heir taking my place, the empire fragmented and my heir ended up owning just the capital domain.. wtf happened, I'm pretty sure the succession tab clearly showed my heir getting everything - but Instead he ended up with the emperor and 4 kingdom titles under a single demesne, everyone else got released including my core duchy

Anything like that happened to any of you ?

Can you not load a previous savegame, or multiple of them, and investigate them futher and provide us screenshots of how it looked before you died?