Single player, custom character over 400 considered OP?

[Zieg]

Just got CK3, and prefer to make custom rulers. I'm playing single player (not ironman) and was wondered about the point cap. What's considered fair/too much/op/not enough? I don't care about achievements, but I don't want to gimp myself if 400 is considered too low, nor do I want to cheese it by going too high.

Thanks for replies.

[Razorblade]

400 being the cap for achievements would imply the devs think anything more is OP. I don't think you'll find a much better answer than the answer from the people who make the game.

Tbh, though, character traits don't matter all that much in the long run. All of the bonuses are so minor that I don't think they tend to incur that much of an advantage or disadvantage to the player. Maybe if you made a 55 martial or stewardship ruler you may have an inordinately easy time, but if you're designing a character for fun and not to be a literal god, I wouldn't sweat the point total. Chances are you won't make anything particularly OP.

[Nate]

I'd say that you'd end up with a better than average character, maybe even strong, if you get close to using 400 points.

[Tao]

If you want to play fair, have achievements enabled. That is probably the most fair you can get in this game. You can create a pretty strong character with 400 points.

[Elenjo [Ger]]

for a underpowered character do far less then 400
for a balanced character go around 400
for a better than average character go ~500-600
for a far Overpowered character go as high as you want.

[garthurbrown]

Going too far over makes the game too easy, but I find it hard to keep it under 400. I think maybe 500 seems more reasonable to me, though I'm sure Paradox has their reasons.

[Evilgenius]

A 400 pointed character is pretty good. Most "historical" starting characters are far below that.

[pi73r]

Lol. With those 400 points you can create seriously OP characters. But well, the entire game is easy no matter what to begin with. So if you want fair game you should create below 0 character.

[BaCaz]

Originally posted by Elenjo Ger:

for a underpowered character do far less then 400
for a balanced character go around 400
for a better than average character go ~500-600
for a far Overpowered character go as high as you want.

This is a good rule of thumbs but if you know what you're doing you can easily make a way OP character with 400 points.

I.e I recently made a norse custom char with witch and adventure who was able to become blood father straight away inside the 400 point limit.

To actually make a balanced character, you should look how the game made the starter chars and do something like that

[Elenjo [Ger]]

Originally posted by BaCaz:

Originally posted by Elenjo Ger:

for a underpowered character do far less then 400
for a balanced character go around 400
for a better than average character go ~500-600
for a far Overpowered character go as high as you want.

This is a good rule of thumbs but if you know what you're doing you can easily make a way OP character with 400 points.

Youre right, because the Designer itself is very "good" scripted, because you can give yourself traits like Hercules, Genie etc, without giving you personspecific Traits like "brave" , vengeful and so on.

you can make a rule with everything needed for "strenghten the bloodline right" after start, and because of that stats you can easy make a kingdom for your heir

[AnotherGuy]

Honestly if you specialize you character then 400 points is enough to make a character massively op, and then during the life of your character you can get your other stats to a respectable level

[redned]

Originally posted by Elenjo Ger:

for a underpowered character do far less then 400
for a balanced character go around 400
for a better than average character go ~500-600
for a far Overpowered character go as high as you want.

oh you can make pretty broke rulers if you know what you're doing while using only the 400.

though you gotta make them 16 with a few traits that only really give negative opinion modifiers.

now if I was making a character that I was never planning on sending to battle I could lower prowess to it's minimum to get even more points to spend else where.

[garthurbrown]

Originally posted by redned:

Originally posted by Elenjo Ger:

for a underpowered character do far less then 400
for a balanced character go around 400
for a better than average character go ~500-600
for a far Overpowered character go as high as you want.

oh you can make pretty broke rulers if you know what you're doing while using only the 400.

though you gotta make them 16 with a few traits that only really give negative opinion modifiers.

now if I was making a character that I was never planning on sending to battle I could lower prowess to it's minimum to get even more points to spend else where.

And I think that's the point: You can't make a well-rounded character for 400. But most people and most rulers aren't well-rounded. You have to sacrifice something.