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ShadowFox Apr 29, 2024 @ 11:34am
Are the plagues balanced now?
When the newest DLC came out I saw a lot of complaints about how often they happen and that sometimes it was either overwhelming or underwhelming. Is it all good now or still wait a bit?
Originally posted by Razorblade:
Imo, people's issue with plagues are pretty exaggerated. It's a bit annoying to get a popup every plague, even when it's on the extremes of my empire and will never reasonably reach my territorial core, but an extra couple of popups every few years isn't really a huge deal.

As for lethality, I haven't had any major issues with it being lacking or too severe. Yeah, sometimes Measles decimate several of my kids, and I have to play as my brother instead of my perfect heir I was cultivating. That's the intent, though; your plans don't always turn out perfectly. When you cultivate and spread your dynasty, as you should be doing anyway, you're never going to lose a game because of bad RNG.

If I had to guess, I would say there's a large overlap between the "nerf plagues" and "disinherit all children but your main heir" crowd. Bunch of minmaxers who should either learn to handle succession, or just download the "Primogeniture from the start" mod and stop trying to lobby the devs to ruin everyone else's experience by making the game even easier than it already is.
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Bordric Apr 29, 2024 @ 11:36am 
You can click on the news tab and see news on patches etc. Nothing new since early April. They can be turned off if you don't like them.
Rex is back, baby! Apr 29, 2024 @ 11:39am 
There's sn upcoming patch that'll lessen the event spam among other undisclosed things.
CrUsHeR Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Bordric:
They can be turned off if you don't like them.

...No, you cannot turn them off. Ever looked at the game settings?

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Game_rule

Minor Diseases can be set to "Fewer"
Plague Frequency can be set to "Very Rare"

And that's it. Only the actual Black Death (Bubonic Plague) can be turned off.

Ingame with minimal settings, this still means that all of my started games had something like pox or flu epidemics spreading through the realm within 1-2 years. So you can't even build a single hospice (which does nothing until late medieval upgrade levels anyway)
Bordric Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Originally posted by Bordric:
They can be turned off if you don't like them.

...No, you cannot turn them off. Ever looked at the game settings?

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Game_rule

Minor Diseases can be set to "Fewer"
Plague Frequency can be set to "Very Rare"

And that's it. Only the actual Black Death (Bubonic Plague) can be turned off.

Ingame with minimal settings, this still means that all of my started games had something like pox or flu epidemics spreading through the realm within 1-2 years. So you can't even build a single hospice (which does nothing until late medieval upgrade levels anyway)

Yes you can, workshop and turn it off. Easy as that. Its literally 430kb download and off they are. So yes you CAN TURN THEM OFF. Yes I think I have looked at the game settings, you ever think before throwing around misinformation?
Last edited by Bordric; Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:44pm
CrUsHeR Apr 29, 2024 @ 1:01pm 
Modding argument doesn't count. Mods can change everything, still allow achievements.

Turning diseases off is not intended by the devs.
ShadowFox Apr 29, 2024 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Bordric:
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

...No, you cannot turn them off. Ever looked at the game settings?

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Game_rule

Minor Diseases can be set to "Fewer"
Plague Frequency can be set to "Very Rare"

And that's it. Only the actual Black Death (Bubonic Plague) can be turned off.

Ingame with minimal settings, this still means that all of my started games had something like pox or flu epidemics spreading through the realm within 1-2 years. So you can't even build a single hospice (which does nothing until late medieval upgrade levels anyway)

Yes you can, workshop and turn it off. Easy as that. Its literally 430kb download and off they are. So yes you CAN TURN THEM OFF. Yes I think I have looked at the game settings, you ever think before throwing around misinformation?

I would have to agree with the other guy that using mods to change things is not really the same as an in game option. While it is doable and probably easy its still not an in game mechanic
Niliu Apr 29, 2024 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by HeightOfDreams:
Originally posted by Bordric:

Yes you can, workshop and turn it off. Easy as that. Its literally 430kb download and off they are. So yes you CAN TURN THEM OFF. Yes I think I have looked at the game settings, you ever think before throwing around misinformation?

I would have to agree with the other guy that using mods to change things is not really the same as an in game option. While it is doable and probably easy its still not an in game mechanic

Is there an easy way to turn off plagues? Yes.
Bordric Apr 29, 2024 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Modding argument doesn't count. Mods can change everything, still allow achievements.

Turning diseases off is not intended by the devs.

Of course it counts. Devs obviously didn't care if you turn them off.
Bordric Apr 29, 2024 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by HeightOfDreams:
Originally posted by Bordric:

Yes you can, workshop and turn it off. Easy as that. Its literally 430kb download and off they are. So yes you CAN TURN THEM OFF. Yes I think I have looked at the game settings, you ever think before throwing around misinformation?

I would have to agree with the other guy that using mods to change things is not really the same as an in game option. While it is doable and probably easy its still not an in game mechanic

Of course it is an in game mechanic. What do you think is going on? It is turning off a setting.
Last edited by Bordric; Apr 29, 2024 @ 3:49pm
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Razorblade Apr 29, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
Imo, people's issue with plagues are pretty exaggerated. It's a bit annoying to get a popup every plague, even when it's on the extremes of my empire and will never reasonably reach my territorial core, but an extra couple of popups every few years isn't really a huge deal.

As for lethality, I haven't had any major issues with it being lacking or too severe. Yeah, sometimes Measles decimate several of my kids, and I have to play as my brother instead of my perfect heir I was cultivating. That's the intent, though; your plans don't always turn out perfectly. When you cultivate and spread your dynasty, as you should be doing anyway, you're never going to lose a game because of bad RNG.

If I had to guess, I would say there's a large overlap between the "nerf plagues" and "disinherit all children but your main heir" crowd. Bunch of minmaxers who should either learn to handle succession, or just download the "Primogeniture from the start" mod and stop trying to lobby the devs to ruin everyone else's experience by making the game even easier than it already is.
nullpo Apr 29, 2024 @ 8:01pm 
Imo plagues are OK. Annoying, a huge resource drain, and during my current restoring roman empire realm, once I only need brittania there's always this "touch sick peasant and risk getting pox or lose 50 piety" literally every minute for different plague. It only really is a problem when it mess my succession, but where's the fun if it's all just smooth roads
Bordric Apr 30, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Plagues were broken in CK2 I turned DLC off
Plagues are broken in CK3 I turned them off with a game setting. Still get Ironman
Silverlock Apr 30, 2024 @ 1:06pm 
The May 8th patch sounds like it will go a long way towards fixing the issues with plagues. For me the endless plagues right now have become to tedious to deal with and I'm shelving my current play though until after the patch.
nullpo Apr 30, 2024 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by Bordric:
Plagues were broken in CK2 I turned DLC off
Plagues are broken in CK3 I turned them off with a game setting. Still get Ironman
You can't even get ironman with less plague
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