Lost Crusade?

[Unknown_IP]

Hey guys

I'm a new CK player and there's something I dont get...I ve just lost a crusade (Damas) with 77% done, holding Damas as well(56% territories occupied by us), and we where 30k men vs 7k left...Why the ♥♥♥♥ did the pope stop the crusade???

[snackmeister69]

Cause the AI in this game is dumb af

[CrUsHeR]

Hmm yeah i just got the same, crusade over Syria.

Warscore was climbing over 50%, sent my troops back home because of rising faction power, then suddenly the crusade is over.

Only reason i could think of is that the pope was captured in a siege or battle, though this should not give -150% warscore?

[CrUsHeR]

Two crusades in a row now, both over Syria.

[Gespenst Gaming]

the country you were fighting against may have disbanded, read the messages then game gives.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Gespenst Gaming:

the country you were fighting against may have disbanded, read the messages then game gives.

They were still held by the same ruler, the Kingdom of Syria hadn't changed owner for the past 20 years. And it still is a vassal of the Persian Empire.


Now i also got a CTD in the same session (the second CTD in 350 hours), so probably there's something fundamentally wrong in this savegame.

[Unknown_IP]

I still dont have the answer. The pope didnt die or some like that. As far as I know he was in Roma abusing childrens but he suddenly decide to say stop. Everything was going in the good way though...Since then I just skipp them unless I need piety, my heart is still broken!

[Sarasvato]

Dead Pope doesn't stop a crusade. Trust me, I tried. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2261665120

[Unknown_IP]

Originally posted by Sarasvato:

Dead Pope doesn't stop a crusade. Trust me, I tried. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2261665120

Ahah sick! T'as la Bretagne si j'ai bien compris alors pourquoi as tu besoin de dézinguer tous ces papes? Et c'est quoi cette armée de mutant??!!! Et dire que je me sentais invincible avec mes 25k ...

[JuX]

As it was mentioned above, may want to read the messages.

Wars can end suddenly if casus belli is no longer valid. For example. This is often the case when you press a claim of one of your courtiers and they die before you win the war.

[Unknown_IP]

Yeah it happened couple of years after this miserable crusade.. Same thing, they didnt have any chance and this idiot duke died cause he was severly wounded(dont even know why ,he wasnt even fighting for me)...

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by JuX:

As it was mentioned above, may want to read the messages.

Wars can end suddenly if casus belli is no longer valid. For example. This is often the case when you press a claim of one of your courtiers and they die before you win the war.

Crusades are set up to be unstoppable. War is declared on all rulers of hostile faiths in the target kingdom's de jure area, and it doesn't matter wether the attacker or defenders die or lose titles.

White peace is explicitly not possible either.

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Great_holy_wars

So if the crusade ends, with no changes to the defending realms (e.g. Byzantium conquering the target realm before the Crusade ends), there must be a bug somewhere.

Only thing i've seen in CK2 was that the pope was captured in Rome, but so far i can't confirm the same for the failed crusades in CK3. In that case you should see the warscore go to -100% and also get a notification toast about the pope having been imprisoned.

However, the war simply ends out of the blue, with the message giving no hints about why. And my detective work in the title history also gave no clues so far.