how to make sure my vassals become vassals of my heir?

[Boogie]

I start as Halfdan Whiteshirt in 867. I rule and conquer, most notably I nominate grant titles, since I'm above domain limit. When Halfdan dies his vassals become independent rulers, instead of vassals of Halfdan's heir. I can't go for High Crown Authority since I don't have Royal Prerogative innovation yet. Please advise this is so frustrating

[mortache]

Vassals becoming Independent? Idk if that's got anything to do with crown authority, that only affects the landed characters outside your realm to gain land when one of your vassal dies. Are those lands exclaves?

[Molybdane]

It looks like you want to create a King title for your heir to inherit. That should solve most of your problems.

[Boogie]

Originally posted by mortache:

Vassals becoming Independent? Idk if that's got anything to do with crown authority, that only affects the landed characters outside your realm to gain land when one of your vassal dies. Are those lands exclaves?

I'm noob, I have no idea

[Boogie]

Originally posted by Molybdane:

It looks like you want to create a King title for your heir to inherit. That should solve most of your problems.

probably yes, but I haven't conquered enough to become king. My character dies before I manage to

[mortache]

Originally posted by Boogie:

probably yes, but I haven't conquered enough to become king. My character dies before I manage to

Oh you're new? It's actually best to just go with the flow and spend some time with the system, and roleplay. Being the King of the world is nice and all, but you can also be a benevolent father, giving your sons equal share of your land. Or you can be a evil bastard, imprison and kill most of your sons to stop realm splitting. You can also disinherit, but that's too expensive. Independent rulers of your dynasty also give you renown, which is the most important currency in the game imo.

Always give new counties to your sons. If you give new lands to your sons, that count against their inheritance. If you give them to random nobles, then upon dying your held counties will be split among sons. Just make sure you don't have multiple of the primary level title. If you are a duke and have more than 50% of a duchy, your secondary heir will get that duchy upon your death.

Can i see a screenshot of your realm? Check how many counties you have left to create a Kingdom.

[mortache]

My big brain strategy is to marry older women with high stats. Wives don't need to give you kids, just help you with your administration and give good events! In my current playthrough I had a quick-beautiful bastard son legitimized, then when playing as him I took the other bastard "half-sisters" who are also quick-intelligent as concubines, seduced them and then set them aside. So my sole heir is intelligent, beautiful and PURE BLOODED. His mother is the daughter of me and my sister and "soulmate". You can't marry your family but they can be concubines lol. So he is my son AND my grandson. There were a lot of deformed bastard kids but we don't talk about them. :| In 867AD if you search you'll find Gyda who is quick and beautiful, good enough to jump start my eugenics program.

[Boogie]

Originally posted by mortache:

Originally posted by Boogie:

probably yes, but I haven't conquered enough to become king. My character dies before I manage to

Oh you're new? It's actually best to just go with the flow and spend some time with the system, and roleplay. Being the King of the world is nice and all, but you can also be a benevolent father, giving your sons equal share of your land. Or you can be a evil bastard, imprison and kill most of your sons to stop realm splitting. You can also disinherit, but that's too expensive. Independent rulers of your dynasty also give you renown, which is the most important currency in the game imo.

Always give new counties to your sons. If you give new lands to your sons, that count against their inheritance. If you give them to random nobles, then upon dying your held counties will be split among sons. Just make sure you don't have multiple of the primary level title. If you are a duke and have more than 50% of a duchy, your secondary heir will get that duchy upon your death.

Can i see a screenshot of your realm? Check how many counties you have left to create a Kingdom.

many thanks for your kind offer
I'm playing on ironman, so what's done is done sadly
I will keep your points in mind
thanks again

[mortache]

Originally posted by Boogie:

many thanks for your kind offer
I'm playing on ironman, so what's done is done sadly
I will keep your points in mind
thanks again

Btw if you have 3 duchies you can create a custom kingdom. Also, remember that you only need >50% of the counties in a kingdom to get its title.

[Boogie]

Originally posted by mortache:

Originally posted by Boogie:

many thanks for your kind offer
I'm playing on ironman, so what's done is done sadly
I will keep your points in mind
thanks again

Btw if you have 3 duchies you can create a custom kingdom. Also, remember that you only need >50% of the counties in a kingdom to get its title.

custom kingdom? how do you do that?

[mortache]

The decision becomes available if:
Adult
Independent
At peace
30 Realm size or at least 3 duchy titles
Level of Fame is at least Illustrious

Honestly it's more trouble than it's worth unless you know what you are doing. Really ♥♥♥♥♥ up the de jure scenario. Only ever did it in CK2 when I was fond of the duchy coat of arms, as the new kingdom and then empire would keep the same coat of arms as the primary duchy.

[DestroShade]

Originally posted by Boogie:

I start as Halfdan Whiteshirt in 867. I rule and conquer, most notably I nominate grant titles, since I'm above domain limit. When Halfdan dies his vassals become independent rulers, instead of vassals of Halfdan's heir. I can't go for High Crown Authority since I don't have Royal Prerogative innovation yet. Please advise this is so frustrating

you need to have titles higher then county that include said lands in them for example the barony of munster title you can create for ireland

[mortache]

Originally posted by DestroShade:

Originally posted by Boogie:

I start as Halfdan Whiteshirt in 867. I rule and conquer, most notably I nominate grant titles, since I'm above domain limit. When Halfdan dies his vassals become independent rulers, instead of vassals of Halfdan's heir. I can't go for High Crown Authority since I don't have Royal Prerogative innovation yet. Please advise this is so frustrating

you need to have titles higher then county that include said lands in them for example the barony of munster title you can create for ireland

I think he is talking about partition succession.

[Boogie]

Originally posted by mortache:

Originally posted by Boogie:

probably yes, but I haven't conquered enough to become king. My character dies before I manage to

Oh you're new? It's actually best to just go with the flow and spend some time with the system, and roleplay. Being the King of the world is nice and all, but you can also be a benevolent father, giving your sons equal share of your land. Or you can be a evil bastard, imprison and kill most of your sons to stop realm splitting. You can also disinherit, but that's too expensive. Independent rulers of your dynasty also give you renown, which is the most important currency in the game imo.

Always give new counties to your sons. If you give new lands to your sons, that count against their inheritance. If you give them to random nobles, then upon dying your held counties will be split among sons. Just make sure you don't have multiple of the primary level title. If you are a duke and have more than 50% of a duchy, your secondary heir will get that duchy upon your death.

Can i see a screenshot of your realm? Check how many counties you have left to create a Kingdom.

Please tell me if I got it correctly: if I give new lands exclusively to my sons at least the lands will stay within the close family, right? so then I only have to fight back my land from vassals who are not my family?

If so, is it a good idea to strip vasals from all land and give it all to my sons?

[Shico]

Originally posted by mortache:

Please tell me if I got it correctly: if I give new lands exclusively to my sons at least the lands will stay within the close family, right? so then I only have to fight back my land from vassals who are not my family?

If so, is it a good idea to strip vasals from all land and give it all to my sons?

When creating your own state, from the very beginning, focus immediately on creating an Empire with vassals in the form of Dukes (and above). If you have one or more counties in a Duchy, give them all (one or as many as you have) to your relative in one hand. If you have an entire Duchy in your hands at once, then give it entirely to one of your relatives. Immediately with the title of Duke (if you are already a king). Two Duchies in one hand.
Reservation = As long as you are still a Duke, you should give less than 50% of the territory of Dukedom, so that the vassal does not stand out as a whole Dukedom and does not leave your power. By doing so, you will reach a maximum of 60 vassals with a large enough Empire. And you will have enough reserve for many territories. And as the limit of vassals is out, unite the lands under vassals in the status of kings (being yourself an Emperor) and give king status to one vassal.
Give titles only to members of your own dynasty. Take away all possible titles from the rebellious vassals and give them to your relatives. Strive for all your vassals to be of your religion and culture and from your dynasty.

[DestroShade]

Originally posted by mortache:

Originally posted by DestroShade:

you need to have titles higher then county that include said lands in them for example the barony of munster title you can create for ireland

I think he is talking about partition succession.

oh could be