Plague ruining this game

[KeeZon]

I have LOVED CK3 since the day I first got it. Mods make this so much more fun as you gt to play in fantasy worlds other than Earth.

But with the recent addition of 'Plague' the game has become unenjoyable.
The rate at which plague spawns is random and sometimes seems to happen every few months. There's only one building you can build to help 'resistance' which really doesn't stop a lot.
My latest game was ruined after 3 hours due to a plague killing my wife, my heir, two of my other children, two of my really good councillors, half my knights and then eventually me.

How did anyone think this as going to be a fun mechanic? Yes it adds some chaos, but not in a fun way in my opinion. With no way to remove it or disable it (apart from going back several versions) it has made my experience of this game now so unenjoyable that I don't want to play anymore.

Please fix this or give us a way to disable Plague or better fight it. One hospice isn't enough.

[jpcerutti]

You can disable plagues in the game settings menu at start. Unfortunately, it will require starting a new game for the game settings change to take effect. Doesn't work for saves or mid-game.

Not that it is great at fighting plagues, but a good physician set to 'fighting plague' and the highest level of mausoleum in a duchy you can build are the most effective besides the Pilgrim building.

Putting your capitol back from coasts and rivers (landlocked) helps too.

TBH, I haven't had the fatality issue (beyond stress cascading), but get the plague far too often even at the lowest setting.

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by KeeZon:

Please fix this or give us a way to disable Plague or better fight it. One hospice isn't enough.

They added the ability to adjust Plague Frequency (including disabling them) to the Game Rules options in the May 8th patch.

[Neshamah]

Yeah, I agree that without disabling plagues altogether, the game is nearly unplayable. An adjustment to the frequency and lethality of the plagues is definitely needed. IMHO.

[armyissue69]

So many plague rats in community. I too hated the plagues once. Then figured it all out and its a breeze now. Get yer own gaming figured out and then you'll enjoy it. I've already posted how it all works so, wish moderators would just highlight the proper way of handling plagues, pin the post and start deleting rants.

[jpcerutti]

Originally posted by armyissue69:

So many plague rats in community. I too hated the plagues once. Then figured it all out and its a breeze now. Get yer own gaming figured out and then you'll enjoy it. I've already posted how it all works so, wish moderators would just highlight the proper way of handling plagues, pin the post and start deleting rants.

If the next update had a dragon appear once a year and randomly eat six people in my kingdom I would turn that off too.

Plagues need to be more infrequent, more deadly, and topple regimes - not annual flu chores to plan events around.

[armyissue69]

Originally posted by jpcerutti:

Originally posted by armyissue69:

So many plague rats in community. I too hated the plagues once. Then figured it all out and its a breeze now. Get yer own gaming figured out and then you'll enjoy it. I've already posted how it all works so, wish moderators would just highlight the proper way of handling plagues, pin the post and start deleting rants.

If the next update had a dragon appear once a year and randomly eat six people in my kingdom I would turn that off too.

Plagues need to be more infrequent, more deadly, and topple regimes - not annual flu chores to plan events around.

IF A DRAGON APPEARED... I would throw a feast of the gods lol. I mean, plagues in real life were intensely devastating. When England had a plague they'd lost 1/3rd of their population. You can watch this on Amazon Prime - Medieval England. Amazing descriptions of how peasants attempted to "not get sick". It even talks about why subsequent plagues were still devastating to young kids. All kinds of good info.

Lastly, having experienced by now over a hundred plagues/illnesses I can say, it's rather easy and boring.

[soul like that be capable of]

as long as u have good econ you can handle damages . so far i didnt saw too many issues with it

[Half-lidded Bruiser]

Originally posted by jpcerutti:

Plagues need to be more infrequent, more deadly, and topple regimes - not annual flu chores to plan events around.

Billy Mays here, and have I got the mod for you!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3205751490

[jpcerutti]

Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:

Originally posted by jpcerutti:

Plagues need to be more infrequent, more deadly, and topple regimes - not annual flu chores to plan events around.

Billy Mays here, and have I got the mod for you!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3205751490

Grazi for the link. :)

I have used it. It is closer to what I think they should be; so is changing the bubonic plague to multiple occasions - but neither seems to hit a great balance. None of them are causing the instability that I think plagues should bring. Plagues should be a once in a lifetime or two events most of the time and, if you're unlucky enough to have multiple ones in a lifetime (or ones with long duration), unrest and revolt causing events.

[Lewis]

Fyi dont even bother attempting the william the conqueror playthrough, ive just tried, 9 times... EVERY time he has caught one plague or another and died commanding his armies before hes even able to solidify his rule over england by defeating harold and then the norwegians, leaving his useless POS son Robert to take over only to be rebelled against by his younger brother for the throne, with half of your realm backing him

[armyissue69]

Originally posted by Lewis:

Fyi dont even bother attempting the william the conqueror playthrough, ive just tried, 9 times... EVERY time he has caught one plague or another and died commanding his armies before hes even able to solidify his rule over england by defeating harold and then the norwegians, leaving his useless POS son Robert to take over only to be rebelled against by his younger brother for the throne, with half of your realm backing him

LMAO. You guys. YOU GUYS. WHY is it that so many people don't get it????

IF you are moving armies through plague lands, Remove Commander and Remove all the Knights from that army. Then send army into plague areas to cap towns, fight, etc. Leave the small retinue army in clear areas to rejoin as the plague areas dissipate. Seemingly, levies and men-at-arms are immune to plague.

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by armyissue69:

Originally posted by Lewis:

Fyi dont even bother attempting the william the conqueror playthrough, ive just tried, 9 times... EVERY time he has caught one plague or another and died commanding his armies before hes even able to solidify his rule over england by defeating harold and then the norwegians, leaving his useless POS son Robert to take over only to be rebelled against by his younger brother for the throne, with half of your realm backing him

LMAO. You guys. YOU GUYS. WHY is it that so many people don't get it????

IF you are moving armies through plague lands, Remove Commander and Remove all the Knights from that army. Then send army into plague areas to cap towns, fight, etc. Leave the small retinue army in clear areas to rejoin as the plague areas dissipate. Seemingly, levies and men-at-arms are immune to plague.

That seems like a gimmicky exploit, rather than the intended way to play. That has nothing to do with people "getting it"

[armyissue69]

Originally posted by jerrypocalypse:

Originally posted by armyissue69:

LMAO. You guys. YOU GUYS. WHY is it that so many people don't get it????

IF you are moving armies through plague lands, Remove Commander and Remove all the Knights from that army. Then send army into plague areas to cap towns, fight, etc. Leave the small retinue army in clear areas to rejoin as the plague areas dissipate. Seemingly, levies and men-at-arms are immune to plague.

That seems like a gimmicky exploit, rather than the intended way to play. That has nothing to do with people "getting it"

Well, personally I'd say a force marching in plague would have limited exposure since they camp outside cities so, I'd say about 10% depletion in war areas seems fine. No more than 33% though since that's about what cities experienced. But, since these troops replenish, I would simply say that MAA's and Levies should not replenish in plague areas but still function as normal... Unfortunately I don't control the design. But if you include plague damage to levies and MAA's then you'd need to start adding things like dysentery and camp fever, etc.

[Electricbluebee]

I get it, i have it figured out, i understand it, i just don't want it.

[armyissue69]

Originally posted by Electricbluebee:

I get it, i have it figured out, i understand it, i just don't want it.

Neither did the peasants, but there wasn't a toggle for them. :)