Game is now Pandemic Kings

[Hans CakeStealer]

This is atrocious can't do anything without getting prompts about plague, sickness, disease, I get it the black plague ravaged Europe historically, but relax these mechanics its strangling the other elements of the game.

[ste]

Plague Inc 2
And now rebellions have no cool down, they just keep firing

[Chaosdiver]

lol figured this would happen. CK2 plagues were broken af on launch and overbearing, then they dialed them back to almost nonexistent. I'm sure this will follow a similar path just like the harm events.

Just like every new expansion mechanic comes out broken af and gets tuned down in paradox games. Though CK3 is the first one where they said ♥♥♥♥ it and never tune down OP mechanics.

[[BRE] Vauquelin]

Originally posted by Euphoric:

lol figured this would happen. CK2 plagues were broken af on launch and overbearing, then they dialed them back to almost nonexistent. I'm sure this will follow a similar path just like the harm events.

Just like every new expansion mechanic comes out broken af and gets tuned down in paradox games. Though CK3 is the first one where they said ♥♥♥♥ it and never tune down OP mechanics.

didn't they nerf easy succession through disinherit by upping the cost?

[Stars-N-Stripes]

"Just like every new expansion mechanic comes out broken af and gets tuned down in paradox games"

When will you people learn, stop buying games paradox is involved in, developed by, or published by. They no longer work to make great games they work for the shareholders to make them money and you continue to give it to them. Why sell gold when you can make as much selling crap and people continue to pay for it?

[[BRE] Vauquelin]

Originally posted by Stars-N-Stripes:

They no longer work to make great games they work for the shareholders to make them money

Literally every game ever

[VoiD]

I'm using the apocalyptic plague settings.

It's pretty cool

Originally posted by BRE Bors:

Originally posted by Stars-N-Stripes:

They no longer work to make great games they work for the shareholders to make them money

Literally every game ever

tbh private companies don't have this issue, once they go public, that's when they die.

This is why most/all of the biggest hits in the past decade that have shaped gaming and created or popularized entire genres were indie games.

This is why you'll never see, not until Ludeon goes public anyway, a patch censoring rimworld's war crimes, o race/genderswaping Cassandra seemingly out of nowhere, a private company stands to gain nothing from pissing off his customers and decreasing sales, public companies don't either, but their shareholder owners do, if they increase share value by ticking a few boxes, even if it's just for a moment before the crash, they can make a lot of money by selling when they peak, and buying them again soon after the crash they have caused themselves.

Of course, there are laws to stop these things, but they are idiotic, how do you prove this is being done on purpose? You don't.

[VBigB]

Dumb question since I’m at work. Has anyone checked the game options for plague frequency and severity? What are they set at by default?

I know they exist from the YT video’s yesterday. I’m at work so I can’t check myself.

[Stars-N-Stripes]

Originally posted by BRE Bors:

Originally posted by Stars-N-Stripes:

They no longer work to make great games they work for the shareholders to make them money

Literally every game ever

No way, many indi and small studios create games with passion, adding way more content than expected. Look at workers & resources, oxygen not included, songs of syx, factorio, satisfactory ...... The problem is paradox' business model . They stopped making good and complete games years ago.

[Chaosdiver]

Originally posted by VBigB:

Dumb question since I’m at work. Has anyone checked the game options for plague frequency and severity? What are they set at by default?

I know they exist from the YT video’s yesterday. I’m at work so I can’t check myself.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2466354671011056709/F4F99983F85124A38DE73F70479DEB2CDC876460/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

That's default settings for them.

Black death has historical, random which will make it originate in any random province, and organic which says it will occur in a historically plausible scenario that is reactive to the current state of the game (lol at whatever that last part means ). It can happen once, unlimited, or never (no achievements)

Plague frequency has normal, often, very often, doomsday, rare and very rare but those last two also disable achievements.

[Mepho]

This is what I feared seeing the DLC (which I managed to know nothing about and caught me by surprise today). Reading the legends it sounded like a lot of nothing, but when I got to the plague I was like "please no".

Historically and on paper it's interesting, but already I'm figthing the RNG at all stages and even with harm events off I (or any of my relatives) can easily (and way too often do) die randomly during a tournament or a naval travel.
I really don't want MORE killer RNG to the scale of nations.
Thinking about it RNG really is the only enemy in the game, but it sucks already I don't want more of it.

What if any of these mechanics got through as free features?

[wven]

I mean what if there were game option setting that allowed to tweak the plagues to your taste.....oh wait...

[Abacus]

Originally posted by Mepho:

This is what I feared seeing the DLC (which I managed to know nothing about and caught me by surprise today). Reading the legends it sounded like a lot of nothing, but when I got to the plague I was like "please no".

Historically and on paper it's interesting, but already I'm figthing the RNG at all stages and even with harm events off I (or any of my relatives) can easily (and way too often do) die randomly during a tournament or a naval travel.
I really don't want MORE killer RNG to the scale of nations.
Thinking about it RNG really is the only enemy in the game, but it sucks already I don't want more of it.

What if any of these mechanics got through as free features?

most are actually free feature. IIRC the legends or at least the creation of them is DLC.

court positions actually got a never mentioned revamp. Starting to get tasks for them.

(which was possible with modding, but much more code intensive having to mess with the gui.)

[Fluff Bunny]

Yeah, I don't know if it's because I continued my game from 12th century (which didn't have chance to build any of these hospital buildings tutorial eludes to) or if it's truly this broken but I'd guess about 90% of my notifications are about plagues.

"Empire-Name Inn" seems to be a favorite appearing four or five times a year on average during a war.


I think I'm going to have to stop playing CK3 until they fix this. I like the plagues idea, I like the new content, but it's all a little bit silly right now.

[daxter]

I'm having no problems, are you guys using the court physician tasks to lower disease chances? I think one of my sons died but that's it so far. Events and using tasks and building those buildings that lower disease chance make a big difference.

[MrGries]

Originally posted by Fluff Bunny:

Yeah, I don't know if it's because I continued my game from 12th century (which didn't have chance to build any of these hospital buildings tutorial eludes to) or if it's truly this broken but I'd guess about 90% of my notifications are about plagues.

"Empire-Name Inn" seems to be a favorite appearing four or five times a year on average during a war.


I think I'm going to have to stop playing CK3 until they fix this. I like the plagues idea, I like the new content, but it's all a little bit silly right now.

you can also downgrade the game to the previous version like i did