What the heck is up with Legitimacy

[Terathel]

So, started my first game with the new DLC and I am not impressed with the new Legitimacy mechanic. I can barely get it to budge upwards, then I lose a relatively minor battle and lose 50 points!!?! I gained literally no increase from winning the last 3 wars, got like 3 points off of an insanely expensive grand tour and then I lose 50 points to a stupidly minor battle. I guess I am really not understanding this mechanic. Can anyone clarify how this is supposed to work, or if there is a way to turn this off? I'm actually worried this may ruin one of my favorite games. I mean 50 points is what I get off of creating a new kingdom title.

[mirta000]

Host events, join in on events, make sure that your kids don't have weird traits and by generation 2 you won't be struggling anymore.

[Tebeas]

Originally posted by mirta000:

Host events, join in on events, make sure that your kids don't have weird traits and by generation 2 you won't be struggling anymore.

More or less that. At first I was also confused by the new systems yet quickly realized holding court gives 50 legitimacy. Then I realized the same goes for creating titles and I had tier 5 legitimacy within 2 generations.

[Charismatic Megatariff]

honestly I'm having the same issue. I hold most of East Africa and the constant plagues have a minimum debuff to my legitimacy. I've done everything possible to minimize plague, hospices, adopt water rituals, administrator trait, godlike physicians. The plagues dont even really affect me other than the legitimacy debuff.

And theres NO WAY to keep up with the (free) systems included to increase legitimacy. Even constantly holding court, winning big wars, creating titles, etc I find it impossible to keep it above 3/5.

I'm not sure if thats an intentional hard cap on large empires... or if I'm being bullied into buying the DLC so that i have access to legends.

[Tebeas]

Originally posted by Charismatic Megafløra:

honestly I'm having the same issue. I hold most of East Africa and the constant plagues have a minimum debuff to my legitimacy. I've done everything possible to minimize plague, hospices, adopt water rituals, administrator trait, godlike physicians. The plagues dont even really affect me other than the legitimacy debuff.

And theres NO WAY to keep up with the (free) systems included to increase legitimacy. Even constantly holding court, winning big wars, creating titles, etc I find it impossible to keep it above 3/5.

I'm not sure if thats an intentional hard cap on large empires... or if I'm being bullied into buying the DLC so that i have access to legends.

Legends do have a huge impact on legitimacy if used properly. 1 mythic legend gave me 300 legitimacy which was enough to fill the gap between tier 4 legitimacy and tier 5 legitimacy. Basically unless you own the DLC you are at a huge disadvantage.

[Terathel]

I'm skeptical of the Legends mechanic adding any real value to the game. One of the massive differences I've noticed between CK2 and CK3 is the amount of gold sinks in CK3. Gold isn't terribly difficult to make, even for smaller domains, but the insane amount you need to deal with all of the new mechanics is eye watering since the Tours & Tournaments DLC. Now they are adding Legends which cost as much or more than creating a new kingdom title. I've only just dipped my toe in creating a Legend, just started my first one. It has already cost me over 400 gold, 250 to start it and 197 to upgrade it once. Hopefully in upcoming DLC they will start giving us more ways to make money as well as spend it.

[QLIQ]

It encourages to use all the DLC released in past years so it is a good system, since it is not a content island DLC pardox loved to make.

[Novia]

Legitimacy might actually be a bit more scuffed than originally thought. Even having bastards born seems to knock off an insane amount of points versus ways you can gain it in the early game, might be due to faith but unsure. Explains how some AI lords are struggling to even keep it above 0 though. As weird as it may sound, it's better to suffer the plague legitimacy hit. :X

[zfrane]

Burial events give a lot of Legitimacy I just spam them.

[Valid]

Not sure what you're doing, I get +20 per pilgrimage or hunt. Numbers are still a little scuffed though, I see absolutely zero way to get legitimacy 4 or 5. Best I've done is 3 so far and it's nearly 1200AD already. Thing I hate the most about it is the fact you can lose 100 legitimacy for something that isn't even within your full control. Losing legitimacy on that scale because some people caught a disease despite my preventive attempts is ridiculous. Only real method I see to gain legitimacy is just spam create duchies and just hand them off to whoever.

[Tensar]

Originally posted by zfrane:

Burial events give a lot of Legitimacy I just spam them.

That's dlc content, I think it's harder for people not having DLC (tour&tournament, legend of the deads and royal court are all giving legitimacy)

with legend you spam them and you are always at max legitimacy

[Electric]

Every minor peasant revolt (a tiny stack of 200 dudes that I wipe in no time) murders my legitimacy time and time again, no matter how many hunts, feasts and tours I do. I don't even acquiesce to their demands (which it does indicate will drop your legitimacy by 50 points), but it still drops anyway. I'm stuck in a perpetual struggle to reach even level 1 legitimacy but it's not working
I've been ruling this kingdom for 30+ years as part of an unbroken dynasty, exalted among men, a paragon of virtue, I have five strong potential heirs, how does this mechanic make any sense...

[Skorpius]

Its a greedy pay to play mechanic. Should be able to turn it off if you don't want to buy these extremely over priced DLC's

[Ichangedmyname]

Maybe it works different for the vikings but I just started a game, I dont have the new dlc or tours and tournaments and I have max legitamacy Idk why I have been conquring and raiding.