Etablish Norman Culture

[zulu354]

Hey guys.
I took complete Neustria with every dejure province in a viking adventure to create the norman culture.
During my war against I fought off another invasion of north france, but can't recall, who it was (a landless lord I think).
After a glorious win, I didn't got an event to etablish the norman culture. With a little research I figured, the culture already exists, at least when I try to create a mix culture by my own, but can't find a single character with the norman trait.
Any chance to get this to work or do I have to abandon my goal?

Cheers.

[Razorblade]

Forming Norman culture is a Decision for Norse cultured characters that own Nuestria.

If you change your culture (such as by forming a custom hybrid culture), you no longer have access to the Decision, unless you culture convert back to Norse.

[zulu354]

Alright. I have no decision available to form norman culture though....

[CrUsHeR]

If the norman culture already exists, it only exists in Normandy. And the duchy should have changed its name from Neustria to Normandy.

Simply convert to the local culture (another decision).

[Razorblade]

İlk olarak zulu354 tarafından gönderildi:

Alright. I have no decision available to form norman culture though....

Do you own Northern Lords? Have to have the DLC to get the decision.

[zulu354]

İlk olarak Razorblade tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak zulu354 tarafından gönderildi:

Alright. I have no decision available to form norman culture though....

Do you own Northern Lords? Have to have the DLC to get the decision.

I have and it's not there...

[zulu354]

İlk olarak CrUsHeR tarafından gönderildi:

If the norman culture already exists, in only exists in Normandy. And the duchy should have changed its name from Neustria to Normandy.

Simply convert to the local culture (another decision).

The province is still called Neustria and still has french culture. I am norse..

If I choose to convert to the local culture, the game tells me, I'll become french.

[vortex_13]

İlk olarak zulu354 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak CrUsHeR tarafından gönderildi:

If the norman culture already exists, in only exists in Normandy. And the duchy should have changed its name from Neustria to Normandy.

Simply convert to the local culture (another decision).

The province is still called Neustria and still has french culture. I am norse..

If I choose to convert to the local culture, the game tells me, I'll become french.

You own all of the Duchy?

[zulu354]

İlk olarak vortex_13 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak zulu354 tarafından gönderildi:

The province is still called Neustria and still has french culture. I am norse..

If I choose to convert to the local culture, the game tells me, I'll become french.

You own all of the Duchy?

I do.

[vortex_13]

You didn't convert culture in the Duchy did you? The counties have to be French and the ruler Norse in order to form Norman culture.

[CrUsHeR]

It's not really that complicated. This doesn't even require the DLC.
For the decision to be shown in your decisions tab:


1) You are Norse
2) Any county in your realm is within Neustria and has the French culture
3) No ruler has enacted this decision yet


For you to take the decision:

1) You completely control Neustria
2) You are not at war or imprisoned
3) All of the "is shown" conditions above



/common/decisions/80_major_decisions_middle_europe.txt

is_shown = {
		culture = culture:norse
		any_sub_realm_county = {
			target_is_de_jure_liege_or_above = title:d_normandy
			culture = culture:french
		}
		NOT = {	
			is_target_in_global_variable_list = {
				name = unavailable_unique_decisions
				target = flag:flag_formed_normandy_decision
			}
		}
	}

is_valid = {
		culture = culture:norse
		completely_controls = title:d_normandy
	}

	is_valid_showing_failures_only = {
		is_at_war = no
		is_imprisoned = no
	}

[zulu354]

I conquered Neustria completely, all counties are still french and I'm still norse. I don't own any other counties. I'm not in war and not imprisoned. With the search function I can't find any character being of norman culture.
I did this stuff in a playthrough a while ago successfully already. The only difference now is, my actual character is female.
And there is definitely now available decision to form the normans...
I will provide a screenshot tomorrow...

[CrUsHeR]

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[zulu354]

It took a day longer, than I had hope for, but here we go.
Sorry for the german location, but I think it should be everything recogniseable.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3145969374

Just in case some translation:
Nordisch - Norse
Französisch - French
Embrace Norman Culture - Die normannische Kultur annehmen (not sure about this one - this I mean should be the action to form the norman culture)

If I chose >>Zur lokalen Kultur konvertieren<< I become french, not norman...

[CrUsHeR]

Assuming you are not at war, then... i don't know.

The year is 911 and all counties are French; so even if a ruler had taken the Norman decision in 867, it would have taken about 40 years to convert them back to French.

And to my knowledge, the AI is blocked from converting certain cultures via the Steward task. For example an English ruler cannot convert the Welsh to English, stuff like that.



Perhaps there's a game bug which is fixed by one of my mods (EPE?), or you have a mod installed preventing this.

The code for the decision is very simple, posted above.

[zulu354]

Yes, I am in peace.


Shall I paste the code into the console?

A mode might be. I use some...