Crusader Kings III

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AFAndrew Jan 4, 2024 @ 10:27am
Having some primary title issues
Hi, so as the title suggests, CK3 is messing around with my primary title. I am playing as Scotland (originally Alba). I managed to unify Scotland and converted the culture fine, and then gradually took Duchies and petty kingdoms in what would become England, Ireland and Wales. So, fast forward a few centuries and I have all of Britannia with Scotland as my primary title. Scots culture has spread to about 50% of England and I have the titles for the Kingdoms of England, Wales and Ireland in addition to Scotland. All is well.

Then the King dies, his son inherits it all and the primary title changes to England.....WHY??? It didn't do this before, and all my vassals top realm has become England.

I thought, I'll change it back to Scotland, so I did, but now I'm waiting for my vassals to revert to being de jure Scotland....and when the king dies I'll probably have to do it all over again!!! :(
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pauloandrade224 Jan 4, 2024 @ 10:35am 
thems the breaks but i can share some good news with u u can change the title s name and banner to become scotland so at least there is a workaround i guess.
AFAndrew Jan 4, 2024 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by pauloandrade224:
thems the breaks but i can share some good news with u u can change the title s name and banner to become scotland so at least there is a workaround i guess.

True, but will that stay in place if I import into eu4, as I'm planning.
Dizzy Ladybug Jan 4, 2024 @ 11:05am 
i wonder if you have confederate partition ? i do notice my primary title can be changing on inheritance sometimes with Confederate
GattorriHanzo (Banned) Jan 4, 2024 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by AFAndrew:
Hi, so as the title suggests, CK3 is messing around with my primary title. I am playing as Scotland (originally Alba). I managed to unify Scotland and converted the culture fine, and then gradually took Duchies and petty kingdoms in what would become England, Ireland and Wales. So, fast forward a few centuries and I have all of Britannia with Scotland as my primary title. Scots culture has spread to about 50% of England and I have the titles for the Kingdoms of England, Wales and Ireland in addition to Scotland. All is well.

Then the King dies, his son inherits it all and the primary title changes to England.....WHY??? It didn't do this before, and all my vassals top realm has become England.

I thought, I'll change it back to Scotland, so I did, but now I'm waiting for my vassals to revert to being de jure Scotland....and when the king dies I'll probably have to do it all over again!!! :(
Scotland has an "election law" which you need to remove (using prestige) that should prevent this from occuring again if im understanding your issue properly.
AFAndrew Jan 5, 2024 @ 12:27am 
Sorry to say, no you're not. I removed all special laws from all titles to simply operate a nice and easy male primogeniture succession system. All the titles follow the same rules. as I mentioned all the titles are passing to the same heir as intended, the game is changing the primary title upon inheritance. That is the issue,
Hydra_360ci Jan 5, 2024 @ 8:07am 
Hmm... was the kid landed before he got everything?
CrUsHeR Jan 6, 2024 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by Hydra_360ci:
Hmm... was the kid landed before he got everything?

Yep i think the problem is from a combination of

1) Multiple Kingdom titles
2) Primogeniture
3) Landed heirs
4) Perhaps also heir designation?

Normally you only get trouble if your realm capital is not located in your primary title.

When this happened to me, it also purged my entire court of like 100+ people, with a huge number of Knights all with 20-30 prowess and such. Replaced by the random AI bobs from my heir's court.
Last edited by CrUsHeR; Jan 6, 2024 @ 5:36am
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Date Posted: Jan 4, 2024 @ 10:27am
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