Stellaris or Crusader Kings III

[Sgt. Sarge]

I have both games and I can easily say Stellaris is significantly better than Crusader Kings in terms of actually enjoyable gameplay, but in your honest opinion, which do you think is better?

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by Sgt. Sarge:

Originally posted by jerrypocalypse:

Depends on the style you like.

X3 and X4 are great, but focus more on you playing a specific person controlling however large of a "faction" you want.

GalCiv 2 and 3 are great too, and are more similar to Stellaris, with some differing features. Not sure how 4 is as I haven't played it.

What is X

It's X.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2820/X3_Terran_Conflict/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/392160/X4_Foundations/

[Gestum]

I enjoy both games very much - they're just very different. Stellaris is a great strategy game (actually, I'm not really good at it and lose a lot, but it's still fun) while CK III is something unique with its dynastic play approach and endless possibilities to create alternative history.

[footsoljer]

wtf? stellaris and ck3 are entirely different games.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Yuumi x Reader:

Play stellaris if you want a bad game, play crusader kings III if you want a bad game.

Pretty much this.

The new Stellaris devs are giving their best to wreck the game and make all your owned DLCs obsolete. See the coming "Tech Beta".

While the CK3 devs don't seem to have any ideas for new content. See how the Persia DLC should have finished this "Chapter" with something really meaningful, but instead turned the middle east into yet another "No-Go Area" by adding the terrible Struggle mechanic.

[Ratman]

I think both are great

[PDX-Trinexx]

They scratch entirely different itches for me, so personally I would say a direct comparison like this isn't incredibly useful.

Stellaris was the first PDS game I got swept up in the pre-release hype for though, so it'll always hold a special place in my heart. I devoured as much information as I could about that damn game before it came out.

[Sgt. Sarge]

Originally posted by PDX-Trinexx:

They scratch entirely different itches for me, so personally I would say a direct comparison like this isn't incredibly useful.

Stellaris was the first PDS game I got swept up in the pre-release hype for though, so it'll always hold a special place in my heart. I devoured as much information as I could about that damn game before it came out.

Glad to see a dev respond to this

Really the only reason I directly compared the two (even though they are completely different) is because they are the only paradox games I play and I really only try to take as much territory in the both of them until I get bored. Some people say CK3 is a roleplay game but I feel as though it is lacking in events which is why I didn't have much enjoyment out of it.

[spasti696969]

Personally I always chuckle when people say CK or Stellaris is "shallow". Compare it to a game like Age of Empires or Starcraft. It's way deeper than that. It might not be as much as you want, and you might have fond nostalgia memories of EU1 or Hearts of Iron 1 or whatever, but to say these games lack depth is a foolish statement by any reasonably objective measure. The most common complaint about CK and Stellaris by far is "it's too big, there are too many buttons to click, I have no idea what to do, where do I start, etc etc etc.".

It comes off as try-harding. "Oh, this may be enough depth for YOU, simple peasant, but for a brilliant mind with near infinite depth, such as mine of course, this is child's play."

Edit: And yes I do still consider Victoria 3 to be a flop, but that's because it was developed during Covid and the project was plagued by a bunch of DEI affirmative action hires. Nothing to do with the underlying structure of the genre itself.

[Saica-Fox]

3 main issues with stellairs one it costs way more than ck3 with all its dlc. the 2nd issue is its all about combat pretty much and just conquer the galaxy which gets pretty boring and repetitive and the 3rd issue is space looks so boring and samey unlike actually land its very dull and not great to look at

[cdplayer906]

Originally posted by Sgt. Sarge:

Originally posted by PDX-Trinexx:

They scratch entirely different itches for me, so personally I would say a direct comparison like this isn't incredibly useful.

Stellaris was the first PDS game I got swept up in the pre-release hype for though, so it'll always hold a special place in my heart. I devoured as much information as I could about that damn game before it came out.

Glad to see a dev respond to this

Really the only reason I directly compared the two (even though they are completely different) is because they are the only paradox games I play and I really only try to take as much territory in the both of them until I get bored. Some people say CK3 is a roleplay game but I feel as though it is lacking in events which is why I didn't have much enjoyment out of it.

bruh

I really only try to take as much territory in the both of them until I get bored

hard to get into roleplaying the game if you just map paint

[Maht]

Stellaris, easy.

[Sgt. Sarge]

Originally posted by cdplayer906:

Originally posted by Sgt. Sarge:

Glad to see a dev respond to this

Really the only reason I directly compared the two (even though they are completely different) is because they are the only paradox games I play and I really only try to take as much territory in the both of them until I get bored. Some people say CK3 is a roleplay game but I feel as though it is lacking in events which is why I didn't have much enjoyment out of it.

bruh

I really only try to take as much territory in the both of them until I get bored

hard to get into roleplaying the game if you just map paint

I tried roleplaying, refer to one of my previous comments

[spasti696969]

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

3rd issue is space looks so boring and samey unlike actually land its very dull and not great to look at

I have to disagree on this point. Space is cool.

[Scotias]

I haven't played Stellaris for over a year, maybe two? As others have said a lot has changed and so many DLC that I would have to learn again to some extent. Same for HOI4. Plus i get my spacey game itch scratched by Distant Worlds 2 at the moment, i prefer the simulation elements.

CK3 holds my interest a lot easier between these two for sure, although I find it hard to break away from the viking starts haha.

[Twilight Sparke]

games are really different. how can you just compare them?
for me there are both quite enjoyable and really replayable