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It had nothing to do with the natural desire to have the feature-complete product, even if it's not worth the money at all, which is also totally not the whole basis for the shady business model of paradox.
Of course, good multiple-choice text adventure writers aren't easy to find either these days and not cheap to employ.
If you plan to play one run every 2 month, price will always be too much.
I'd say Witcher IF you haven't already played it for the simple reason that it will age worse and it's one of the best games ever if you like story driven games.
DLC for CK will be on a discount pretty often which could make it more worthwhile.
However, like mentioned before, if you enjoy CK3 you will get your worth out of the DLC's by simple fact of time spent playing.
People invest over 1k into those games, and find out once the server shut down they have nothing.
My list of games I still play is so short.... but if I want to ad the cost of those games bought.
It comes way over 10k. and I don't even play most of them anymore.
Don't think CK2 came over 1k, think max was around 500 dollar. if you paid full price without discount. even then never heard anybody complain it was too pricey. for the amount of content. same story with CK3 you pay base game, every year you buy a chapter.
Since only 2 chapters are released (aside from Friends and Foe that 5 bucks extra)
so your total cost if you paid FULL price without discount is now 100 dollar.
Especially since a lot of games straight up extort you for mid content. This has become the norm.
Because some players will simply pay anything for everything.
On the surface PDX DLC seem expensive for what they provide BUT that is without regards to the time you spend using it when you "waste" your time playing the game.
I strongly disagree with drake-hound's assessment about complaints about CK2 DLC, there have been plenty. Understandable.
You bought certain DLC for certain mechanics.
Yes, you'll use those for long periods of time/hours IF you enjoy the game and spend lots of time playing the game.
The fact that after digital distribution became the norm, the prices never dropped is scandalous and nowadays new releases are 60-70 bucks, just because people are willing to pay for it.
I don't blame the co.panies, because why not if people are willing to pay for it, but I still think it's ridiculous that we, as players, are willing to pay for it.
Ngl, I think the way PDX approached CK3 with its DLC policies is far more consumer friendly but too deny you overpay for basically a couple of digits is simply...
Furthermore, to actually shame someone, like a certain cookie selling twitch streamer, without regards to others is.. abhorrent tbh.
Not everyone is in the same economic situation and yes, I feel, we overpay.
But I do pay for it and being a hypocrite making a fuss about it.
That is called CAPITALISME... everything at cost price has been screwed way up to 350% profit margin, saying it applies to gaming is understatement.
Why you think HARDWARE has a FIXED price in almost every country.. or else without hardware, they can't sell you software at overinflated price, but that is also people want more PAYMENT for their working hours. more payment means also more expenditures.
You may not like it, but if money is the issue for gaming, then don't game work more. spent less. not that what you save up will make you rich anyway those days are long gone.
Sorry 30-40 bucks for a WHOLE YEAR isn't expensive. yeah but I have to buy 100 of games a year. that is the issue, of those 100 games how many do you really play after a couple of weeks.
Like I said, I pay because I'm impatient, not because I think the prices are fair for what we get.
Furthermore, even I thought the prices would be fair, I would never shame someone who would think different, unless said person would make ridiculous claims.
I disagree would with folks and try too make my case.
There's a huge difference.
Claiming gaming isn't for said person because the prices have been extortionate lately is simply insulting and I won't stand for that, because it's true.
Just because I'm fortunate enough to make that decision and am a hypocrite because I feel the same way doesn't make it less true.
The gaming industry has been taken over by investors who don't care about anything but the bottomline.
Hence why we, as gamers, are getting extorted and scammed on a daily basis.
PDX is far from the worse, but certainly not blame/shame free.
Shaming players for not conforming too that is simply being a simp.
Game less, work more?!? Really?
Most people are working to live and hardly able to pay rent and food.
Don't be so insensitive, we do overpay and those of us not needing to complain can count ourselves lucky.
CK3's chapter bundles are, like, a great example of this because they come out 25% off.
it's almost like enjoyment is subjective and the cost for said enjoyment is a choice. there are people who would clown you for doing so w/ ck2. just as you are here.
the cool thing about ck3 compared to ck2 (regarding DLC policy) though is you don't NEED those dlc's to not have a skeleton of a game, as core features are added even w/o the paid dlc. they could always go back to the ck2 way of no core feature w/o paying and then they can get some of those text based adventure writers they're missing.
Example where I am smoking is a luxury more expensive then gaming a month, sadly that luxury is addictive. when you are broke and poor, that addiction is hurting you mentally.
Still the poor are the people who smokes the most... (funny huh) while the middle class quite smoking cause it is too expensive.
Rich like always do whatever they want, all troughout history. cause they have majority disposable income.
Gaming isn't a addiction it is meant to be entertainement. if you get addicted on a gaming that you can't afford food or rent. then something else is wrong.
Same as most people able to afford the Internet Monthly Cost. well you should be able or else you are not on STEAM, same reason some games have a much HIGHER spec computers needed to be able to enjoy it.
This isn't a game you can play on a 2010 laptop or game computer.
So most of the reason like Mobile Games don't fly, mobile games every walk of life plays it.
And that is why most of them are free, and they are targeting the heavy spenders to boost their sales, or targeting those who do not have self control.
Sorry you cannot compare the real poor with people who are online and on steam.
Especially not who can afford a decent enough computer to run CK3. with the zillions of mods they want.
It isn't that people are rich, it is that most people who play CK3 are the average gamers with enough disposable income. since the hardware requirement for CK3 are already high enough.
Same way those people who have the latest greatest looking games, are not the ones who complain about price of the games. they complain about tons of issue, but never the price.
Sorry to say, cause if you can afford a beast of a computer, then you can afford the price to buy the software for it.
Every country is different, but the real poor, ain't online playing or paying for games.
Oh My the 30 bucks seem cheap.. but it doesn't fly cause it is a niche.
Nah lets compare then Train Simulator... oh my the CK3 is even cheaper.. for a niche in the box.
Lets compare grand strategy games. well the price is about the same sometimes other 4x DLC are more pricey and sometimes this CK3 DLC is more pricey.
No we want to compare it with, eh Witcher Wild Hunt who made HOW MUCH MONEY....with the initial Witcher 3, it isn't a best seller not for nothing, Compared to CK3 base game.
it doesn't matter, cause we want to be right, if failing that lets attack the person not the message, under the veiled adhoniem. failing that straight forward insult.
You can complain about the content of the game. sure but then atleast ad Constructive Criticisme what you want changed, but we don't dare, cause then we get attacked by the rabid fanboys. but meanwhile they attack anybody else who disagree or explain how the industry currently is.
So you want reasons to fit your agenda, better be a MASTER debater.
Explain to them why they should lower the price, Friends and Foe was a cash grab.
While Wards and Wardens they worked real hard on adding a Hostage mechanic, but they failed in implementing it correctly that everybody don't even bother using it.
Tours and Tournement, the one feature everybody use is Accolade, so that feature alone.
Already make people who rollback miss the stuff, you can do without travelling, you can do without tourney events. but Accolades is like CK2 Way of Life overlooked but you do want it.
What really matters, to me, is the content of said DLC, older games used to do expansion packs instead, they were often bigger than most DLC, and they'd cost as much as the base game, even though they'd never have as much content as the base game, and development surely is easier, but it was still worth it.
The problem with DLC is that it can be bad, like, really bad, it can be developed in a way that actually harms people who refuse to purchase, such as adding a new feature or mechanic the AI can have access to, but the player can't use unless they pay the price, development in EU4 was a good example. They can also come as cut content, obvious features stripped from the base game to be sold as extra content in the future, and while it's hard to tell when this happens, and only the devs would know when it does, some examples are fairly obvious, such as day 1 DLC, or very early DLC announced shortly after release. It's a way to scam the community into paying twice for the same product, whether they are aware of it or not.
But when DLC is done right it's usually something very positive and healthy to the game, I mean, Paradox could have released CK2, EU4, Stellaris, HoI4 in their early states and simply left their games behind, calling them a complete product as they focused on some other game, all of them had good initial reviews, players were happy, there was no reason to keep developing anything for those game after launch, so why would they? This isn't a charity, they wouldn't do it "for free", they'd do it at a loss, as they would have to pay the wages of employees to keep working on complete games for years, for no good reason. Instead they decided to create additional content to those games, keeping the experience fresh for many, many years, every time I finished a run of any of those games there was already a new DLC announced and about to come out, so I could try to play with something new, in a new way, those were some of the games I've played the most in my life, specifcally because of their market strategy, it was great.
I don't mind any paid content with 1/3 of the content the usualy expansion pack, which most/all players from the old times used to love, if that content also costs 1/3 of the full price of an actual expansion pack, good content for a fair price is always welcome. If anything I'm far more scared of watching good games like CK3 die and be forgotten due to very slow release cycles, the lack of good, new content, than going to a steam store and seeing a huge list of optional contet, while I can get a lot of them, today, for free, I used to have this stance long before I could do that as I used to happily purchase all the good content I wanted, as long as the price was fair. SO I can't really understand the complaints of some people complaining about DLC for no other reason other than being DLC, as if stripping one of the main races of a WH game (Chaos in total war warhammer) and selling it as "extra content" on day 1 was the exact same thing as hiring or mobilizing half your company's employees a game you've released years ago to figure out how to create some neat secret societies for different play styles so players can have something new to play with.
But maybe that's just me, I'm also the kind of guy who sometimes will buy those "help the devs" DLC packs with no real content, if I really like them, and I also don't mind purchasing random junk until I get the "premium skin" after 2.5k spent on gacha games like counterside if I know I'm supporting a company making games I like, but I won't spend a tenth of that on a game like Diablo 4 simply because it's Blizzard.
If paradox opened a gofund me today with the goal of releasing 4 true DLC packs a year for CK3 instead of 1+3 random junk/event packs I'd surely be a part of it.