Are there any reasons not to marry your daughters matrilinear?

[Tykopulus(DOSE)]

Matrilinear:
+ Your daughter stay at your court and assist you
+ Her Husband assists you with his skills, too
+ The Children belong to your Lineage and make your Family bigger

Not Matrilinear
- daughter leave your Court
- Children dont belong to your Family

[EngineerDoge]

Better alliances and less grand children to have claim to the throne when you and your heir die.

[Omnitheo]

Not usually, it's just a matter of marriage acceptance. Most rulers won't want to accept, unless it's not their primary heir (though nothing a little murder won't solve after the marriage goes through). That said, I find daughters in a matrilinial marriage are frequent targets of assassination themselves. I've had some rulers stressed nearly to death as a result.

Also, if you're trying to form a witch coven, you may want to hold off for a bit lest your family grow too large to keep up with.

[jerrypocalypse]

The biggest thing is some of the bigger alliances are going to be more difficult to get with a matrilineal, depending on area and inheritance laws of the realm she's marrying into. If alliances aren't an issue, then there really isn't a reason to do anything but matrilineal marriages for your daughters.

[AC Denton]

You don't always get the choice. You do it for the alliance. That's history, typically the female is sent away to live with her new family.

[The Former]

Apart from marrying abroad for an alliance, in which case it's often functionally impossible to secure matrilineal, the reason I do it is twofold:

1. Pruning the family tree. Too many branches and succession becomes chaotic. A healthy dynasty is a dynasty with an heir, a spare, and a prayer, and not many more legitimate heirs beyond this.

2. Rewarding worthy and loyal men. I love elevating my best knights to nobility by marrying them to my daughters. This way I can be sure my daughter is taken care of, while also having a new noble house I can assign the marches to and know that they'll be in good hands.

[Primigenia]

you can strike pretty good alliances with heirs 1st or 2nd in line to other duchies/kingdoms

[Emperor2000]

引用自 Tykopulus(DOSE)：

Matrilinear:
+ Your daughter stay at your court and assist you
+ Her Husband assists you with his skills, too
+ The Children belong to your Lineage and make your Family bigger

Not Matrilinear
- daughter leave your Court
- Children dont belong to your Family

Another + thing, it is better to know, which Characters are related to your Dynasty, marrying Daughters to other Dynasties, makes it more difficult to track, which Characters are related to your Dynasty.

引用自 EngineerDoge：

Better alliances and less grand children to have claim to the throne when you and your heir die.

Better Alliances, Yes, but you will have the same amount of Claimants, because the Children of your Daughter, who belongs to a different Dynasties, will get Claims too, if your Character and the Daughter dies and they will be less loyal to you and will probably start a Claimant Faction or press their Claims, if they can.

[VoiD]

Not really, I'll always marry all my 12 daughters matrilineally, and their daughters as well, always use them to get good traits into your bloodline, or to recruit powerful knights from different cultures & religions into your court, then use their children to populate your freshly conquered lands removing all other dynasties from your realm.

Meanwhile I also try to have as many sons as possible, and if religion allows it, I always gift concubines to my sons & family members to increase their reproduction as well.

After a while your family gets so powerful and so large that you'll suddenly start seeing random people from your dynasty taking random thrones all over the world due to some crazy marriage your vassals have done, and if they are respected (strong, intelligent, beautiful) it's quite likely that their kingdom's vassals may be willing to fight their own faction wars to put your dynasty members on their thrones.

As succession is easy enough to manage through conquest, having over 10 sons on every generation isn't an issue either, just make sure you give their inheritance while you're alive and you won't be losing any lands, nor wasting dynasty score on disinheritance.

[The Former]

引用自 Emperor2000：

引用自 Tykopulus(DOSE)：

Matrilinear:
+ Your daughter stay at your court and assist you
+ Her Husband assists you with his skills, too
+ The Children belong to your Lineage and make your Family bigger

Not Matrilinear
- daughter leave your Court
- Children dont belong to your Family

Another + thing, it is better to know, which Characters are related to your Dynasty, marrying Daughters to other Dynasties, makes it more difficult to track, which Characters are related to your Dynasty.

引用自 EngineerDoge：

Better alliances and less grand children to have claim to the throne when you and your heir die.

Better Alliances, Yes, but you will have the same amount of Claimants, because the Children of your Daughter, who belongs to a different Dynasties, will get Claims too, if your Character and the Daughter dies and they will be less loyal to you and will probably start a Claimant Faction or press their Claims, if they can.

I don't believe your grandchildren get claims. Your daughter has an unpressed claim, and unpressed claims aren't inherited by children unless pressed. If I'm not mistaken, the only reason your children would inherit their claim is if your daughter pressed hers, and even then, such claims can only be pressed against incapable rulers, children, or other women.

[nullpo]

marriage acceptance. I only marry my daughter matrilineal if there's no good alliance so better to use them for genetic fodder, or I want to pull a fast one, such as changing a kingdom ruling dynasty when the opportunity arises.

[sfbistimg]

alliances are over rated (they are absolutely useless IMO). All my female relatives get married matrilineal to bring in Knights or Good Vassal candidates.

[jerrypocalypse]

引用自 sfbistimg：

alliances are over rated (they are absolutely useless IMO). All my female relatives get married matrilineal to bring in Knights or Good Vassal candidates.

Most of my close female family *are* my knights, haha.

[VoiD]

引用自 Lockfågel, Paradoxriddaren：

引用自 Emperor2000：

Another + thing, it is better to know, which Characters are related to your Dynasty, marrying Daughters to other Dynasties, makes it more difficult to track, which Characters are related to your Dynasty.


Better Alliances, Yes, but you will have the same amount of Claimants, because the Children of your Daughter, who belongs to a different Dynasties, will get Claims too, if your Character and the Daughter dies and they will be less loyal to you and will probably start a Claimant Faction or press their Claims, if they can.

I don't believe your grandchildren get claims. Your daughter has an unpressed claim, and unpressed claims aren't inherited by children unless pressed. If I'm not mistaken, the only reason your children would inherit their claim is if your daughter pressed hers, and even then, such claims can only be pressed against incapable rulers, children, or other women.

Depends on what you're playing as, christians certainly do get pressed claims for daughters.

In fact, that's supposed to be the main way to expand, taking entire kingdoms in a single war after a generation, but the game just went too far on the path to ignore the entire CB system that it doesn't really seem to matter, and people rarely marry to daughters of kings for their future claims.

You might be remembering CK2 where they'd get weak claims instead, you couldn't press them unless the target realm was unstable (queen ruler, regency or during a civil war for the throne).

[nullpo]

引用自 sfbistimg：

alliances are over rated (they are absolutely useless IMO). All my female relatives get married matrilineal to bring in Knights or Good Vassal candidates.

as long as they're your neighbor I find them useful, especially for defensive war. But if you're say some persian dude marrying off your daughter to some dude in India, the alliance is indeed useless.

[The Former]

引用自 VoiD：

引用自 Lockfågel, Paradoxriddaren：

I don't believe your grandchildren get claims. Your daughter has an unpressed claim, and unpressed claims aren't inherited by children unless pressed. If I'm not mistaken, the only reason your children would inherit their claim is if your daughter pressed hers, and even then, such claims can only be pressed against incapable rulers, children, or other women.

Depends on what you're playing as, christians certainly do get pressed claims for daughters.

You might be remembering CK2 where they'd get weak claims instead, you couldn't press them unless the target realm was unstable (queen ruler, regency or during a civil war for the throne).

That's right, I think that's what I was thinking of. Christian daughters do get pressed claims, but if I'm not mistaken their children get unpressed claims, right? Not that they can't be pressed freely, if they're sons.