Ok...so High Partition...

[mikemonger]

Yes, it's another thread about the succession laws.

In the description, it says "the Player Heir always being given the Primary Title, Realm Capital, and any direct De Jure titles associated with it."

Seems pretty straightforward, except...

In order to deal with the partition mechanic, what I do is NOT acquire any titles that match my highest one until I can transition from confederate partition to partition. Using that strategy, I've gone from duke of Bohemia to King of Bohemia to Emperor of West Slavia, only holding those titles and destroying any of the same rank.

So right now, there's no kingdom of Pomerania, Poland, Sorbia, etc.

So just as an experiment, when I switched to high partition, I created the Kingdom of Sorbia, which is a direct Du Jure title under West Slavia.

My primary heir wasn't the heir to it. My second son was. So I destroyed it. No big deal...it was down to one du jure duchy anyway.

So the question is, when they say "and any direct Du Jure titles associated with it", do they mean just COUNTY titles? Because if that's the case, that's all I really want and most of the duchy of Bohemia is about to become my personal realm. My next king gets intrigue....

[rat]

Origineel geplaatst door mikemonger:

Origineel geplaatst door Artos:

I think what he means. Is that you really can't pick what 50% will be given to heir. I once tried to give some of my better holdings to my heir and game straight up blocked me by saying something like heir cannot get this holdings coz they are part of succession of another son (don't quote me on that tho, I really don't remember what it says there, I only remember that games does that).

Correct. The game automatically allocates which heirs get what, and the only way to bust it up is to give titles to people outside the direct succession line. That's how I spread my dynasty...by giving titles to nephews and kinsmen instead of my direct heirs, who I try to marry off to female rulers whenever possible.

Technically speaking if you want to go all "aggressive expansion" you can conquer new land and give it to your sons.

For example, say you have three sons, and the second and third sons are poised to split your primary duchy into thirds with your heir. You obviously don't want that, so instead you could Holy war your neighbors and gain extra land to give out.

Now, son #2 is supposed to recieve 2 counties from your duchy, and son #3 will get 1. If you give son #3 a county from the Holy-warred land, he will no longer be due to inherit anything. Same for son #2; give him 2 counties and he will no longer be due to inherit.

Then, your primary heir gets all the land in the primary duchy.

In theory at least. There's some kind of hidden counter that checks how much land you've acquired or something, and if you take more, your sons will be due to inherit more, but it's not 1:1 so you CAN save your demesne for your heir that way.

Source: This is how I've taken over the British isles multiple times, keeping the exact same 4 counties in my possession every generation.

The only issue is, of course, it tends to be very map-painty.

[Long Bottom Leaf]

It depends on your primary title. Example if I create Kingdom of Alba/Ireland, then go on to conquer Britannia, my Primary heir will always get the Kingdom of Alba as it was my primary title before the empire (on top of the empire title of course). Then my heirs would get the other kingdom/s, then other duchies, etc. So on a smaller scale, I create the Kingdom of Alba, die, my primary heir would inherit the duchy with the Kingdom capital, then any other duchies are divided between the other heirs, THEN any available counties. So, what gets messed up is having too many heirs and potentially different succession types for duchies and counties ex: a duchy with Scandinavian succession.

All territory, that isn't the primary territory of you demesne, that you directly control, will be divided amongst your heirs, but if you have too many, then they will begin inheriting inside your primary territory. This happens the most with Vikings: dad dies, my two younger bros get a duchy each, and I get a single duchy, a single county, and my two youngest bros get the other two counties in my duchy. Queue diarrhoea sound.

I believe if you are primogeniture high partition, you can land heirs and they loose their previous inheritance. This may be a specific combination of religion and culture and succession though so don't quote me on that. It happened during my Corsican-Roman empire run but I forget the specific circumstances.

[Long Bottom Leaf]

I generally fix this by marrying off sons to queens, disinheriting if I have a surplus of prestige and dynasty points, making my ♥♥♥♥ sons commanders so they are likely to die in combat, sending sons to a holy order, finding secrets on them to make them a criminal so I can banish them or force them to renounce any claims, just straight up letting them rot in prison, and sending them to places with disease so they are likely to die (this was my main way in CK 2 but we don't have plagues yet in CK 3).