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jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:00pm
Horse Lords or Konni?
I want to hybrid Norse and get a good pursuit army.

Should i go with Horse Lords or Konni?

Horse lords is less pursuit but no negatives and seems you get buildings and just better overall stats and less - pursuit when in negative terrains.

Someone give me some advice on which one? Or if their is a better option.
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TurksTeeTime Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
I want to hybrid Norse and get a good pursuit army.

Should i go with Horse Lords or Konni?

Horse lords is less pursuit but no negatives and seems you get buildings and just better overall stats and less - pursuit when in negative terrains.

Someone give me some advice on which one? Or if their is a better option.

Id take the Horse Lords every time. The men at arms is almost a God until Crossbows hit the scene.
20% travel speed is no joke.
jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:16pm 
cool best culture with horse lords to get a 2nd tradition?
TurksTeeTime Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:27pm 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
cool best culture with horse lords to get a 2nd tradition?
Plenty of options.

Lately I am alll about Travel speed so I can attend more events. Prolific hunters for example is a great choice, as it stacks speed and chunks of half the time for Hunts.
Swords for Hire gives another 10% speed and doubles the amount of Mercs that are available.
Frequent festivities is another Id attach to this travel speed/event attending Culture. More parties.

Depending on your specific location, I would also consider adding things to your culture that your Terrain benefits from. example: Agrarian in farmlands and floodplains, or Mountain Homes. These will boost development and all that fun stuff
jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:32pm 
What culture though like what countries would give the best traditions to pick from beisdes horse lords to merge with norse
TurksTeeTime Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
What culture though like what countries would give the best traditions to pick from beisdes horse lords to merge with norse

You dont have to hybridise. You have the option of just solo adding traditions.
However, if you are aiming for the Norseyboi versions of it, I would piggy back multiple Varangian adventures until you are at the one you want.

World is literally your Oyster. You have 600 years to try and make it work :D
jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:41pm 
I know but imma start day 1 and hybrid on day 1 basically so trying to figure out which one will be the best to start at then work my way towards scandanavia
TurksTeeTime Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
I know but imma start day 1 and hybrid on day 1 basically so trying to figure out which one will be the best to start at then work my way towards scandanavia

Pursuit is nice and all, but screen is the real gem.
Consider going another route, Caballeros are the BOMB.
jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:45pm 
I want to end the fights in 1 fight. I dont want to play hide and seek so thats why i want pursuit. I normally dont lose fights so not worried about retreating i want to end it in one fight
jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:48pm 
Also are the horse lords really the best option for the pursuit overall?
TurksTeeTime Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:49pm 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
I want to end the fights in 1 fight. I dont want to play hide and seek so thats why i want pursuit. I normally dont lose fights so not worried about retreating i want to end it in one fight

This is why I hate pursuit. I am to have my MaA chunking enemy armies out before that phase hits. It is a stat that just enhances winning. I would argue you have already won.
Of course the situational to that are those times you are fighting larger forces that haven't fully come together yet, pursuit can change the overall result of the NEXT fight heavily.
jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:51pm 
Also what are Hobelars i saw that mentioned also what culture has those
TurksTeeTime Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
Also are the horse lords really the best option for the pursuit overall?
AND NO, not at all.
Their real strength until 1050 is that they really can't be countered except for the HAN.
But 30 pursuit as a base number isnt bad either.
TurksTeeTime Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
Also what are Hobelars i saw that mentioned also what culture has those
and I hate them because of their single counter.
They are available up in the scottish lands basically
jjones_50 Sep 21, 2023 @ 6:04pm 
Where I dont see the hobelars
TurksTeeTime Sep 22, 2023 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by jjones_50:
Where I dont see the hobelars
sorry. they are in the high Medieval innovations screen. Bottom category.
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