Crusader Kings III

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Lord of ice and fire 2023 年 5 月 29 日 上午 4:35
The regency is totally broken.
The AI ​​spends prestige non-stop, without any limit and each time I take an action to regain the advantage on the balance of power, it spends prestige again. (my regent had -5000 prestige) I have him assassinated, the next regent has the same level of power (no sense) and when I rebalance the power, he in turn spends prestige nonstop.
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Harris 2023 年 5 月 29 日 上午 5:44 
Yeah, the problem is regency continuity, aka once you're in the entrenched regency there's no way to end it other than through scales of power. New regent inheriting all the power and influence the predecessor worked for a decade to achieve is unrealistic and option limiting.

I'd argue that entrenched regency should perhaps end the very day your ruler turns 16 and the "parting gift" should be reworked or perhaps removed outright - because as it stands nothing prevents you from rewarding your regent for a job well done through mechanics already in the game, like gifting gold or granting titles.
Lord of ice and fire 2023 年 5 月 29 日 上午 6:15 
It's been a long time since I noticed it, but it's even more convincing with the addition of the regency: the devs must add more penalties to having a negative prestige.
Harris 2023 年 5 月 29 日 上午 7:19 
To add more feedback to the pile:

I have never actually encountered the regent coup thing, either on giving or the receiving end. As regent, I feel regency is too much investment / planning. Swinging scales of power happens too slowly, it feels like you need to become a regent for a newborn and have the next 15 years to spare to have time to actually achieve anything. Meanwhile 15 years is actually a lot in a single human's lifespan, and between feuds and new harm events I see regents just not being able to live long enough to accomplish anything.

Another pet peeve is how actually easy it is for someone other than your liege to topple you as regent. It's actually ridiculous how a fellow vassal can pull off a single scheme and take over with inhering scales of power no less, while the liege himself have to play the scales of power game to shake off the diarch.

Also, regency events mostly rely on your stewardship and diplomacy, meanwhile it's intrigue you need to create a situation where a regent would actually be needed, leading to a situation where I can't really make use of the regent post and advance the scales other than throwing resources at them.

So all in all, regency is something super gimmicky and something I don't have much desire to engage with at present. It's okay if you happened to become a regent and can use it for a quick favorable contract change, but otherwise... dissappointingly, if I want to take over my liege's realm, regency is the last thing I'd be using for that.
Gilmund 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 4:33 
It's only broken cause :
- you let yourself have some kid without having properly planned your succession
- your ruler is incapacited in his old days and it may take a few years (the most rgent level i got was 3). You still are able to suicide yourself if you prefer this solution.
- you're unlucky as it's an interested regent is making bread and butter inside your kingdom

It's somewhat realistic and i like it a lot.
Mos of the times you should be able to skip the regent part and avoid him to get too much power.
最後修改者:Gilmund; 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 4:34
Lord of ice and fire 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 4:40 
引用自 Gilmund
It's only broken cause :
- you let yourself have some kid without having properly planned your succession
- your ruler is incapacited in his old days and it may take a few years (the most rgent level i got was 3). You still are able to suicide yourself if you prefer this solution.
- you're unlucky as it's an interested regent is making bread and butter inside your kingdom

It's somewhat realistic and i like it a lot.
Mos of the times you should be able to skip the regent part and avoid him to get too much power.


No I was on an elective succession (vikings) and the guy who took my place had a regent with a level 5. And when I paid 250 of piety or gold to decrease the level of balance, he could spend thousands of prestige so he reached the maximum level in a very short time.
Gilmund 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 4:50 

No I was on an elective succession (vikings) and the guy who took my place had a regent with a level 5. And when I paid 250 of piety or gold to decrease the level of balance, he could spend thousands of prestige so he reached the maximum level in a very short time.

Right. It's supposed to illustrate why elective succession is crap and why germanic tribal successions came to an end as they were dividing countries.
Why many people are telling to go from tribal to feudal with vikings asap.
But i agree with you the mechanic is frustrating.
Lord of ice and fire 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 5:01 
The problem with this mechanic is that the AI ​​spends prestige it doesn't have. It's stupid, and the game should be more penalizing when you're in a prestige deficit.
Gilmund 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 5:08 
The problem with this mechanic is that the AI ​​spends prestige it doesn't have. It's stupid, and the game should be more penalizing when you're in a prestige deficit.

I would argue the events are mostly happening way too fast.
I havn't checked but i felt my regent was lauching a change in vassal contrats every few months. He did a lot of trouble to the empire in a few years when i was incapacitated.
When you're only able to counter it more slowly.
But i'm not playing elective BS to get 10+ years of regency so i feel you.
Lord of ice and fire 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 5:22 
My regent had -5000 prestige, and he must have had -100 with all his vassal peers, but obviously that didn't stop him from doing what he wanted. And the murder was useless because the next one keeps his level of power.
Jet 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 8:03 
引用自 Harris
Yeah, the problem is regency continuity, aka once you're in the entrenched regency there's no way to end it other than through scales of power. New regent inheriting all the power and influence the predecessor worked for a decade to achieve is unrealistic and option limiting.

I'd argue that entrenched regency should perhaps end the very day your ruler turns 16 and the "parting gift" should be reworked or perhaps removed outright - because as it stands nothing prevents you from rewarding your regent for a job well done through mechanics already in the game, like gifting gold or granting titles.
at the least it should decline like accolades do when the holder dies
regloh70 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 10:26 
引用自 Gilmund

No I was on an elective succession (vikings) and the guy who took my place had a regent with a level 5. And when I paid 250 of piety or gold to decrease the level of balance, he could spend thousands of prestige so he reached the maximum level in a very short time.

Right. It's supposed to illustrate why elective succession is crap and why germanic tribal successions came to an end as they were dividing countries.
Why many people are telling to go from tribal to feudal with vikings asap.
But i agree with you the mechanic is frustrating.
Crap is, that the AI can go in the negative ad infinitum with prestige and still can call you to war or that crap regent thing now. This has to stop. If you are in the negative both player and ai should not be able to do anything that requires prestige, period.
Gilmund 2023 年 5 月 30 日 上午 3:15 
引用自 regloh70
Crap is, that the AI can go in the negative ad infinitum with prestige and still can call you to war or that crap regent thing now. This has to stop. If you are in the negative both player and ai should not be able to do anything that requires prestige, period.

Right but then no reason you can go into gold debt either :)
I have no issue with negative prestige, the issue is mostly to my mind this mechanic isn't balanced at the moment.
Dizzy Ladybug 2023 年 5 月 30 日 上午 3:27 
So if I'm reading this right, even if the AI has negative prestige it can still pay the prestige cost to swing the scales of power ?
Lord of ice and fire 2023 年 5 月 30 日 上午 3:56 
引用自 dizzy ladybug
So if I'm reading this right, even if the AI has negative prestige it can still pay the prestige cost to swing the scales of power ?

Yes. My first regent had maximum power, and he had -5000 prestige. Whoever replaced him immediately went into a prestige deficit because he increased his power level when I brought him down.
Lord of ice and fire 2023 年 5 月 30 日 上午 3:57 
The worst being that I suddenly lost -3000 prestige, I don't really know how, I had to veto one of my regent's decisions.
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