CK3 is a down graded version of CK2.

[0xRegen]

CKIII lacks contents. Most of us played CK2 feels that CKIII is a down graded version of CK2.
This is why:

# Republican system was destroyed.
# CK2 has more events and options within the game play.
# Simply CK3 lacks content.And it's boring to play as you feel like it's pointless just keeping you character alive doing the same thing over and over again, Less events and options.

# Trading Routes
# Add trading hub with diplomacy like EU4

# Characters asks for marriage and AI is prioritise auto match making marriage for great Houses so that they don't die out even without lands. Landless Great Dynasty members can create mercenary company titles to grow wealth and gather troops and can press claim of their ancestors title if they wish to. If they are successful to reclaim the title, the mercenary title can be vassalized or to give to a member from the same dynasty. This type of mercenary groups can get married unlike traditional mercenary title holders or holy order.

# Creation of Knightly orders ( as secret society )
# Secret societies
# Anti pope war and cardinal election features
# HRE gov elections ( similar to eu4 features ), bribe system to win votes.
# Pagan boons and nomadic invasions ( Horse Lord features from ck2 )
# Revival of hellenic pagan religion or Old religion in general.
# Godhood or Godking features and some cool mechanics on that regards. Maybe Godkings can provide some health boon to followers or individuals. Godking can become immortal or can reborn. etc.

Paradox has disappointed the community with their latest releases ( Vic 3 + CK 3) worst of all Paradox games. There are so many cool features the devs can concentrate on, rather than 3d moving characters and their clothing. I mean we play this game coz of the mechanics & strategy, not for how it looks. And i am sure some nice people going to disagree with me on this regard. But hey feel free to voice your opinion.

[0xRegen]

Автор сообщения: JF

CK2 is still there. It is a very good game. You can still play it and enjoy it. Why the drama?
CK3 is another game, in a list of thousand of games you can play or not.

Do you feel that because it shares the name and is published by the same studio, it robs you of anything? If the very same game was names "Medieval Sims" and was published by another studio, would you still yell on a forum?

It is a game. It is ok if you do not like it. It does not rob you of anything for existing. You can still play CK2.

Have fun!

It does rob people. As it has been advertised as upgraded version of CK2.
So out of goodwill and expectation users bought the game to have better game play experience. So don't come here and drop your garbage opinion. Know the legal implication of customer protection and expectation. So if this is a completely different game then Paradox is guilty of false advertising as it supposed to be an upgraded version of the similar game play as CK2.

[0xRegen]

Автор сообщения: JF

Автор сообщения: 0xRegen

It does ob people. As it has been advertised as upgraded version of CK2.
So out of goodwill and expectation users bought the game to have better game play experience. So don't come here and drop your garbage opinion. Know the legal implication of customer protection and expectation. So if this is a completely different game then Paradox is guilty of false advertising as it supposed to be an upgraded version of the similar game play as CK2.

So you bought a game that did not meet your expectation from what was advertised.

Probably was not the first time, probably will not be the last time.

I did not like the last Star Wars movie. I did not get out of the cinema with the intent to sue Disney for false advertising, whining about customer protection.

You expected something, it did not pan out. They did not mislead you. You knew you were rolling the dices on a new product. You could have waited a month or two and looked at let's play to see if it was a game you would enjoy or not.

You bought a game, you do not like it. That's it and that's all.

Again that's not how things work. People just had enough of money grabbing so called gaming companies such as paradox. we paid money for a product thus have right to complain since it did not meet majority of the customers expectation.

You may walk away from this conversation if you don't want to part take in this. But don't white wash paradox. They have history of squeeze money out of kids pocket money who play their games.

Today $10
Tomorrow $20
Day after tomorrow $30

And after all that they published a bad game with false advertising.

[taomastercu]

What I don't get is that people always defend Paradox saying that majority of people are happy and playing the game. But so many posters on this forum spends hours throwing themselves in the way of any criticism. If the game is so good why aren't ya'll playing it? Thought so.

[Gribblesnap]

Автор сообщения: FON

LMFAO republics he says. No one played republics bro, you didnt either stop lying

I Loved the republic system and when playing mods like ATE and EK they were alwasy my go too starts. Can i also say they have still yet to implement a trade system or even trade nodes such as the silk road.

[FINALCUT247]

I find CK 3 to be a much more realistic experience honestly. My Wife and Children hate me and this is very realistic. My only real friend is my drunkard Brother in Law and the only real reason he is my friend is because I keep giving him gifts. This is literally as real as it gets for me.

[PDX-Trinexx]

Remember to be civil and respectful to each other. Whether you are praising or criticizing the game, personal insults will not be tolerated here.

We openly welcome criticism because it helps us make a better game, just as we value knowing what people enjoy about the game, but attacking each other over a difference of opinion serves no purpose beyond diluting the value of the discussions here.

[protista123]

The musical score, map. graphics, and added character flavor make this much more fun, immersive and rewarding for me.

[echoes222]

it's the other way around. I haven't touched ck2 in years, was bored with it. Ck3 is fun.

[Supply Slut]

“CK2 has more content”!”

The content:

“A comet has been sighted.” - ‘Ok.’

[Machiavelli]

It is. Teleporting armies, paying gold to do sea transport, council is dumbed down, no flanks, no multiple commanders, no death sounds, piety and prestige are turning into mana, laws are dumbed down to vassal contracts and in taberna revisted is bad. The game is even more easier than CK2 to appeal to the console market.

[Supply Slut]

Автор сообщения: Fellington

It is. Teleporting armies, paying gold to do sea transport, council is dumbed down, no flanks, no multiple commanders, no death sounds, piety and prestige are turning into mana, laws are dumbed down to vassal contracts and in taberna revisted is bad. The game is even more easier than CK2 to appeal to the console market.

You’re trying to argue that individualized vassal contracts is somehow worse than a one size fits all slider? Grasping. Ck2 doesn’t even have knights. Lifestyle focus compared to the lifestyle trees in 3? Would be like comparing a street puddle with the Black Sea. Hooks, secrets? Ck3 is vastly superior in nearly all the core mechanics.

[: )]

Well this is modern gaming... Most companies nowdays are making barebones games and selling you the content later in form of DLC

[toutvabien]

i find it lacking sooo much. i have played more than 1k hours CK3. so, i've tried many things on my playthroughs. CK2 is much more hypothetical then CK3. In CK3 you have that 3D portraits and less interesting events unless without mods of course. If you have mods, then you haven't CK3. So, what makes CK3 is depending on mods and flavors at this point. Vanilla is just not enough, and will never be enough unlike CK2. Still playing CK3 despite its flaws though.

[Rex is back, baby!]

Автор сообщения: toutvabien

i find it lacking sooo much. i have played more than 1k hours CK3. so, i've tried many things on my playthroughs. CK2 is much more hypothetical then CK3. In CK3 you have that 3D portraits and less interesting events unless without mods of course. If you have mods, then you haven't CK3. So, what makes CK3 is depending on mods and flavors at this point. Vanilla is just not enough, and will never be enough unlike CK2. Still playing CK3 despite its flaws though.

I don't understand this logic.
You come to an Ice cream shop.
It offers two flavors. Chocolate "Ck2" and vanilla "Ck3."

You are able to buy both, as they are both available.

If you can have your ck2, and it fulfills you, why complain about the other flavor?

It looks like vegetarians complaining that other people are eating meat, despite having a full plate of luxury vegetables in front of them.

Yet, you also have 1000 hours in the game. Let's say you bought the game for $60. The worth of this game to you is $0.06 an hour. That's either high enjoyment or addiction (depending on perspective).

Also, since you've put so much of your finite time into the game, of course it is lacking. Read a book? Play a game? There's an end. The more you consume or expose yourself to stimuli, the less impact they have. Think back go your first 10 hours of ck3, would you hold the same opinion as you do now? Doubtful.

Drink alcohol? Smoke? You build up tolerances. Watch a lot of content? Your critical rating window becomes stricter.

What is your 0? What is your 10? It differs from someone who has played 10 games versus 10000.

The reason vanilla is not enough is not the fault of PDX here. You have grown, your tastes have changed. What is needed to excite you now takes much more effort and time. Perhaps try a pallet cleanser, or cold turkey reset. Perhaps log off for a day, or a week. Take a dopamine detox.

Edit: emotions are tied to memories. Why many look back with nostalgia and rose tinted glasses. If you played a game during a happy event in your life, that game is going to reflect that happy memory. Same with sad, anger, or escapism from reality.

One last analogy. Sugar. The more you eat it, the sweeter things you need. Eventually, too much sugar will lead to diabetes. Our tolerance to sweetness builds up fast. If you don't eat sugar for awhile though and drink soda, for example, the soda will taste like cough syrup.

[Athmet]

Автор сообщения: toutvabien

Still playing CK3 despite its flaws though.

Why are you still playing ? I would like to understand what motivates you to do so after what you explained regarding CK3 vs CK2.

Edit: based on Rex comment below, I added more context to the question. Thanks again.