Iberian Struggle mechanic sucks and needs fix

[Snaxxor]

It's way to easy to soft-lock yourself out of ending the struggle if it ends up on the wrong phase, and all you were doing was conquering and expanding within that area. Unless you already know you can get soft locked or have been soft-locked you will run into this issue, where you can fulfill the conquest solution, but are not in the right phase and in order to be in the right phase you need people to fight, but you already beat everyone in the struggle. I wouldn't just say this applies to the Iberian struggle either it applies to any event that uses the struggle mechanic, the potential to be locked out of progressing into the next phase with no alternative seems common.

Basically if I own all of Hispania and converted everyone to my religion the struggle should instantly end, no waiting for phases, nothing. There can't be a struggle if there is no one to struggle with.

[Сааребас]

Idk if you still play an older version or with a mod that reversed the update.

You can end the struggle if you hold all of Iberia, this includes the duchies of Barcelona and Mallorca.
Possibly the Canaries as well if the decision for making it a kingdom has been made.

You have to be involved. Being an interloper doesn't work.

Your main, dejure, kingdom title must be in Iberia and completely of your religion and culture. (Watch out for dejure drift).
Your capitol must be located in Iberia.

You should have no problems ending the struggle with the hostility ending this way.


However, this is the fastest/easiest of the three endings but, the one with the most drawback.

[PostalGibbon]

I did Iberian struggle with Haesteining conquering all Iberia including Duchy of Barcelona and Mallorca.

Started varagian adventuring my bum to Duchy of Beja then conquer all land required for forming Portugal.

Make Kingdom of Portugal conquer with border struggle CB taking about 10 counties in one war per border struggle conquering all Iberia.

Only small hiccup in the end was that i had one event where some Jewish settlers come and changed one of my Portugal counties to different culture so i had to convert that back to Portuguese to full fill requirement for ending the Struggle.

Got the Conquistador, holiday in Iberia (being outsider end Iberian struggle) and making all Iberia in Mozarabic faith achievements in one go.

Was pretty easy ride and in my opinion nothing need fixing in Iberia Struggle if you read what the end conditions are and plan accordingly.

I have not played Iberia struggle in earlier patch iterations only in newest quill patch.

[Snaxxor]

Originally posted by Пьяный Медоед (Се:

Idk if you still play an older version or with a mod that reversed the update.

You can end the struggle if you hold all of Iberia, this includes the duchies of Barcelona and Mallorca.
Possibly the Canaries as well if the decision for making it a kingdom has been made.

You have to be involved. Being an interloper doesn't work.

Your main, dejure, kingdom title must be in Iberia and completely of your religion and culture. (Watch out for dejure drift).
Your capitol must be located in Iberia.

You should have no problems ending the struggle with the hostility ending this way.


However, this is the fastest/easiest of the three endings but, the one with the most drawback.

I had started in iberia as the castillians (the super warlike knight guys), I had conquered all of iberia, and revoked any title that I didn't own to one of my dynasty. I had completely and utterly dominated the whole pennisula but I was not in the conquest phase, I was 2 phases away from conquest phase, and the current phases couldn't proceed because they needed involved rulers to fight but there was no one to fight, or involved ruler to convert but there was no one left to convert etc.

I did everything you said and it's what got me in that situation in the first place. What I'm saying is if you can't get an ending there should be a catch-all term where it defaults you to one of them. (Example: you need to be in a certain phase or requirement for conquest ending but you already conquered the whole peninsula then you get that instantly).

[Сааребас]

Originally posted by Snaxxor:

Originally posted by Пьяный Медоед (Се:

Idk if you still play an older version or with a mod that reversed the update.

You can end the struggle if you hold all of Iberia, this includes the duchies of Barcelona and Mallorca.
Possibly the Canaries as well if the decision for making it a kingdom has been made.

You have to be involved. Being an interloper doesn't work.

Your main, dejure, kingdom title must be in Iberia and completely of your religion and culture. (Watch out for dejure drift).
Your capitol must be located in Iberia.

You should have no problems ending the struggle with the hostility ending this way.


However, this is the fastest/easiest of the three endings but, the one with the most drawback.

I had started in iberia as the castillians (the super warlike knight guys), I had conquered all of iberia, and revoked any title that I didn't own to one of my dynasty. I had completely and utterly dominated the whole pennisula but I was not in the conquest phase, I was 2 phases away from conquest phase, and the current phases couldn't proceed because they needed involved rulers to fight but there was no one to fight, or involved ruler to convert but there was no one left to convert etc.

I did everything you said and it's what got me in that situation in the first place. What I'm saying is if you can't get an ending there should be a catch-all term where it defaults you to one of them. (Example: you need to be in a certain phase or requirement for conquest ending but you already conquered the whole peninsula then you get that instantly).

Except you either did play with a much older version, a mod reversed the ability or you didn't fulfill the conditions.
You can end the struggle outside of the hostility phase, when involved if holding all of Iberia under normal circumstances.
I've done it myself a couple of times already so something is off on your end.

All I'm saying is that the possibility is there, you just need to look at what you're missing/done wrong.

[ryoyo]

Originally posted by Snaxxor:

Originally posted by Пьяный Медоед (Се:

Idk if you still play an older version or with a mod that reversed the update.

You can end the struggle if you hold all of Iberia, this includes the duchies of Barcelona and Mallorca.
Possibly the Canaries as well if the decision for making it a kingdom has been made.

You have to be involved. Being an interloper doesn't work.

Your main, dejure, kingdom title must be in Iberia and completely of your religion and culture. (Watch out for dejure drift).
Your capitol must be located in Iberia.

You should have no problems ending the struggle with the hostility ending this way.


However, this is the fastest/easiest of the three endings but, the one with the most drawback.

I had started in iberia as the castillians (the super warlike knight guys), I had conquered all of iberia, and revoked any title that I didn't own to one of my dynasty. I had completely and utterly dominated the whole pennisula but I was not in the conquest phase, I was 2 phases away from conquest phase, and the current phases couldn't proceed because they needed involved rulers to fight but there was no one to fight, or involved ruler to convert but there was no one left to convert etc.

I did everything you said and it's what got me in that situation in the first place. What I'm saying is if you can't get an ending there should be a catch-all term where it defaults you to one of them. (Example: you need to be in a certain phase or requirement for conquest ending but you already conquered the whole peninsula then you get that instantly).

The Dominance Ending does allow for you to not be in the Hostility Phase, you just need to completely control all of Iberia for 5 years. Check the conditions for it again.

As for advancing the phase, it can still advance on its own every year by 1 point. But that's going to be 100 years per phase, so I doubt you want to wait. That said, you can still advance it without war. Opportunity, Conciliation, and Compromise all advance to the next phase by:
>Expose a Secret of an Involved character (+10)
>Become Rival or Nemesis with an Involved character (+10)
>Kill an Involved character (+5)
>Use a Hook on an Involved character (+5)
>Construct a Building in a Castle Holding (+3)
Get a good Spymaster and educate your kids in Intrigue, and you'll be in Hostility Phase in no time.
Also, your vassals can always just fight each other and tick up the score on their own, while you just see to the overall prosperity of the realm.

On the other hand, if you are doing like the above poster mentioned and are using a mod in relation to the Struggle, then we cannot help you without knowing what things that particular mod happens to do.

[Сааребас]

Originally posted by ryoyo:

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I was not aware about the 5 year requirement nor the 1 point per year.
The more you know :)

[ryoyo]

Originally posted by Пьяный Медоед (Се:

Originally posted by ryoyo:

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I was not aware about the 5 year requirement nor the 1 point per year.
The more you know :)

I actually didn't know about the 5-year requirement as well.
I was sure there was a +1/year tick, but I decided to double-check on the wiki, where I saw that extra info. https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Iberian_struggle