Special Buildings or Capital Duchy County's

[Titan1019]

Should I hold special buildings like Grand Temples over my main Duchy counties if I don't have the Domain limit to hold all of them.

[Сааребас]

Depends on the bonus or who holds the county/duchy.

Why you want to keep them all?

[Jwsto]

Imo the special buildings usually give stuff that is much better than the random countries in your duchy so it's easy choice for me. If it's just dynasty exp and you have free dynasty members to hold them, maybe it could be worth it to give it to them

[Titan1019]

Originally posted by Пьяный Медоед (Се:

Depends on the bonus or who holds the county/duchy.

Why you want to keep them all?

Was just wondering was playing a Norse France took their capital then took my holy sites and had a choice keep my capital duchy county's or keep the holy sites or take the penalty. Was just wondering if it would be more optimal to keep the holy sites with the Grand Temples or keep my capital duchy county's because pretty sure you get a bonus for that right?

[Harris]

In the ideal world, you want your realm capital to be BOTH duchy capital and hold a special building like grand temple.

That is because of practicality - the vast majority of your playtime you're stuck with partition succession, which means at some point your ruler will be stuck with only the realm capital and whatever duchy/kingdom/empire titles above that. Making your domain a single OP county with multiple castle-baronies solves that problem.

But if you absolutely must make a choice, then the answer is.. that depends. In the early game when you don't have the tech for good duchy buildings, an early mine or cathedral is much more valuable. But if the holy site is inside a monastery, you won't be able to make use of it unless your religion has lay clergy.

And in the late game, your have both primogeniture and enough domain limit to just hold onto every county in a duchy, nullifying the issue entirely.

[Titan1019]

Originally posted by Harris:

In the ideal world, you want your realm capital to be BOTH duchy capital and hold a special building like grand temple.

That is because of practicality - the vast majority of your playtime you're stuck with partition succession, which means at some point your ruler will be stuck with only the realm capital and whatever duchy/kingdom/empire titles above that. Making your domain a single OP county with multiple castle-baronies solves that problem.

But if you absolutely must make a choice, then the answer is.. that depends. In the early game when you don't have the tech for good duchy buildings, an early mine or cathedral is much more valuable. But if the holy site is inside a monastery, you won't be able to make use of it unless your religion has lay clergy.

And in the late game, your have both primogeniture and enough domain limit to just hold onto every county in a duchy, nullifying the issue entirely.

I'm pretty good at managing succession now so i'm not to worried about that and I always control the duchy capital its just like a duchy like Valois in France has 7 County's in it lets say I only could control 6 early game of course but I also own multiple Grand Temples as Norse should I just give away county's in my main duchy to have those under my control and I don't have to have Lay Clergy to get the special building in places like North Riding for example.

[Harris]

Originally posted by Titan1019:

a duchy like Valois in France

It's a good example, because there are a few duchies where the capital county is all farmlands, so filling in with castles and raking in the money from manor houses yourself is more beneficial than owning the whole counties on plains or hills. In this exact situation I owned Paris + all other castle baronies in the same county, and a couple more counties in the same duchy for the rest of the domain limit.

Grand Temples... ehhh, at some point you start realizing +1 gold income is nothing to write home about as it gets outclassed even by the mentioned farmlands. I tried playing around those temples in the middle of nowhere like Siberia, and the profits just aren't good enough to offset bad terrain and low initial development. Since you're playing in England/France anyway, I'd suggest grabbing Kent, that Cathedral got several levels of progression to it and gets really strong, not to mention it being theocratic is not really a drawback - your bishop will blow 3000 gold on upgrading it, and you can also hybridize with Anglo-Saxons for sweet +15 relations with realm priest from their weed, wheat.. ugh, not gonna spell it.