Regency is nonsense.

[Tethryss]

If everyone despises my regent and everyone loves me as monarch, there is ZERO reason that the nobility would not draw and quarter the diarch for continuing their illegal power on the throne.
Further, if I have 4,000 gold, I still cannot tell this loser to gtfo?

TF is this?
Its almost as bad as the Iberian struggle system.

[SkunkPlaysGames]

If you have 4000 gold you should be able to buy your way out of the regency relatively quickly. You just need to stay on top of it.

[Half-lidded Bruiser]

It's nowhere near as bad as the Iberian struggle system.

[Tethryss]

Originally posted by SkunkPlaysGames:

If you have 4000 gold you should be able to buy your way out of the regency relatively quickly. You just need to stay on top of it.

You cannot if they have a self_interested trait and are dogmatically focusing on trying to get it to tier 6.

[Duilf]

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Crusader_Kings_III_Wiki

The achievement tips sections provides useful info on this. For Your Eternal Reward the second paragraph includes this. "(Fill Coffers = Stewardship, Swell Armies = Martial, Promote Authority = Diplomacy). You will need to succeed regularly at the mandate events, in addition to using the Swings the Scales decision, to maintain Scales of Power level 6." Flip that around to have them fail regency you need to have them fail events which would boost their scale of power.

This also drives a nasty nail into the coffin of your argument. It means Regencies obtain then keep power when the realm perceives them to be handling the affairs of the realm well, and is near impossible to keep when the realm perceives them as a failure.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Tethryss:

If everyone despises my regent and everyone loves me as monarch, there is ZERO reason that the nobility would not draw and quarter the diarch for continuing their illegal power on the throne.
Further, if I have 4,000 gold, I still cannot tell this loser to gtfo?

TF is this?
Its almost as bad as the Iberian struggle system.

Not, if you have T&T and an Accolade with the Politics Attribute, because it decrease your Diarch's Power Level Base by 15 to an Base Level of 35, so it is harder for your DIarch to maintain their Power Level.

[Talist]

Regencies are pretty stupid imo. Cool idea, poor execution. I was playing once as emperor of the HRE, and then my character died and I started playing as my 30-ish year old heir. However, I had given him a duchy a while ago, and somehow he had gotten himself into a level 6 entrenched regency, and that carried over. So now the entire HRE was in a regency by... some random distant relative. He was running the duchy of Austria while the heir became emperor and now he gets to run the empire too? He was ambitious too, so even though everyone, including him, loved me after a while, I could not get rid of the regency, even though I was hitting the "swing the scales" button whenever it was available. I couldn't do any hostile actions against him, and my murder plot on him failed randomly. The only reason I ever got out of the regency was because he died of old age after about 20 years.

It seems really dumb that the regent has skill checks to advance their position, but the ruler, even if they're right there in court and perfectly capable of ruling, doesn't. As far as I can tell, the only way you can tilt the scales back in your favor is either just waiting or hitting the once every 3-4 years button. There should be more dynamic and frequent opportunities for power struggles, like the two characters trying to frame the other as incompetent or trying to win over the vassals, but that just doesn't happen.

The other side isn't much better. I played as a regent to get the achievement, and it's just kind of boring. You just occasionally make skill checks. You generate massive amounts of strife. and most of the other vassals end up hating you, but outside of murder plots or declaring war, there's nothing they can actually do against you. There should be an option for a "change/end regency" faction, then vassals who are upset with the current regent can demand a change, and it would be an indirect way for a well liked ruler to end an entrenched regency, or at least switch it to a less selfish character.

[taomastercu]

The story of every CK3 "mechanic" which is just a poorly implemented bar filler.

[Danny]

Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:

It's nowhere near as bad as the Iberian struggle system.

Own the entire peninsula when you take the unite the Spanish thrones decision and you still can't end it...

[Rock]

Originally posted by Talist:

Regencies are pretty stupid imo. Cool idea, poor execution.

That's Paradox dlc in a nutshell.

[Сааребас]

Originally posted by Danny:

Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:

It's nowhere near as bad as the Iberian struggle system.

Own the entire peninsula when you take the unite the Spanish thrones decision and you still can't end it...

You can rather easy nowadays.
Your main (kingdom) title needs to be completely of your culture and religion.
There is even a way to not have your capitol in Iberia itself.

It used to be like that but that is no longer the case.

[taomastercu]

Originally posted by Rock:

Originally posted by Talist:

Regencies are pretty stupid imo. Cool idea, poor execution.

That's Paradox dlc in a nutshell.

Pretty much yeah. Luckily several upcoming games are gonna do those mechanics justice. Maybe Paradox can rip them off like they did the fancy tooltips.

[justcallmeMac]

Originally posted by SkunkPlaysGames:

If you have 4000 gold you should be able to buy your way out of the regency relatively quickly. You just need to stay on top of it.

Not accurate in my experience. The NPC Regent can swing the scales of power multiple times in a single month, multiple times a year, as long as they have resources they can keep stacking it against you. You however have to wait 2 years to swing it back less than 1/2 a level each time. It's broken.

[Сааребас]

Originally posted by Mac:

Originally posted by SkunkPlaysGames:

If you have 4000 gold you should be able to buy your way out of the regency relatively quickly. You just need to stay on top of it.

Not accurate in my experience. The NPC Regent can swing the scales of power multiple times in a single month, multiple times a year, as long as they have resources they can keep stacking it against you. You however have to wait 2 years to swing it back less than 1/2 a level each time. It's broken.

I found out that when regents like you better they change their stance.

[White]

Originally posted by notThatMac:

Originally posted by SkunkPlaysGames:

If you have 4000 gold you should be able to buy your way out of the regency relatively quickly. You just need to stay on top of it.

Not accurate in my experience. The NPC Regent can swing the scales of power multiple times in a single month, multiple times a year, as long as they have resources they can keep stacking it against you. You however have to wait 2 years to swing it back less than 1/2 a level each time. It's broken.

I just found this out in my playthrough. The whole mechanic is completely broken. Regents inherit levels from their predecessors, get way more chances to swing the scales than the ruler, so there's no point even trying, and even if they run out of resources, they can just infinitely go into the negative. The only way out is to be lucky with a murder scheme or wait for them to die.

[jpcerutti]

Originally posted by White:

I just found this out in my playthrough. The whole mechanic is completely broken. Regents inherit levels from their predecessors, get way more chances to swing the scales than the ruler, so there's no point even trying, and even if they run out of resources, they can just infinitely go into the negative. The only way out is to be lucky with a murder scheme or wait for them to die.

While I understand your frustration, isn't that pretty much how it worked in real life? (IE you have to kill the entrenched regent to remove them) Entrenched regencies are, well, entrenched. They are not supposed to be easy to remove. Entrenched means they are particularly difficult to remove.

Maybe they'll tweak it with the update - or add to it since you can somehow be 'landless'. It would be nice if you could go to your neighbor's court and get them to press your claim.