Primary title give away, please help for roleplay

[Buadh]

Hi, can anyone help.

i wanted to roleplay doing the following. start in ireland ( im irish) and make it all the way to siberia.
However, all land along the way would be shared equal among my sons.

Second oldest son is given primary title on rulers death and my heir (oldest son, must relinquish capital to second oldest son after taking land further east, to continue journey).

So, currently im king of ireland, my 6 sons have about 2 duchies each, i have iceland and land in norway.

however,its only now ( current king close to death) i realise i can not pass on my primary title. so that my second son becomes king and i become count/duke in norway with oldest son.

Any way to work around this?

granting title or destroying primary title wont work i believe

[Buadh]

Just thought and think i came up with a solution, can anyone confirm, im on ironman.
If i grant independence to all vassals in de jure kingdom of ireland, on ruler death ill be left with one county thats the capital. if i then switch capital with new heir outside de jure ireland and give that county away, ill no longer hold land in ireland and so de jure kingdom title will be lost!

Is that correct and feasible for my problem?

[CrUsHeR]

You cannot grant independence to de jure vassals.

[Buadh]

Ah darn, thanks, i guess im stuck so?

[CrUsHeR]

I think it is possible to get dethroned by some claimant faction/war, but actively losing your primary title and ruler tier isn't a mechanic intended by the developers.

[Buadh]

ya, your right id say, i cant figure away around it. if they added that and the ability to start out at baron level tier that would be an awesome dlc. from hearing other ppl on the forum previously, the ability to play as a baron is not possible due to the coding or something like that though.

[Sid1701d]

So if I get this right you want to give up king of Ireland and be count duke of norway, just move your capital to any castle in norway that you control, however keep in mind whoever inheriets or get a title equal to your own if to leige will get their independence. Since Norway is not normally De_jura part of Ireland you won't be part of Ireland unless your son as a primary duchy title for norway or the kingdom title.

Another way, is to set your kingdom to election so it goes to your second Son, you also have to set the Duchy level to election to so it goes to your second son, so the capital goes with him. Just make sure when you set elections that you find one the excludes claiments and low level vassels and only allow elections from claiments in your dynasty.

Hope that helps.

[Kimlin]

Being in Ironman limits what you can do but there are cheat mods you could use that would give you access to the switch character feature. You could switch to another character, use the take title feature and switch back. I think they could work.

[apiccaro]

Conquer another kingdom and create the title so you have two king titles. Make sure you hold land in both kingdoms, then make the 2nd kingdom your primary title *and move your capiral there*. Then when you die your land will split and your 2nd son will get Ireland

[jerrypocalypse]

One way to "give away" your kingdom title is to enable an elective law on the kingdoms title and hope you're heir gets outvoted, but you wouldn't have control over who gets the kingdom title for that to happen.

[[GCA] King Apo]

You can take influence on votes with hooks

[Buadh]

Hello all above posters, thanks for feedback, honestly , i tried most all suggestions but simply could not do it, so lost interest in that run. maybe im wrong, but, i think an option to give away a primary title or destroy it etc.. would be for fun for specific roleplays. something similar to the viking adventure thing where you up and leave, the irish culture is a mix of norse gaelic in reality, so should be more alligned but thats just my 2 cents.