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The Shia muslim religion is missing in Ck3.
I'm trying to make an ultimate assassins culture and religion build. I don't see anything useful in the tenets or traditions besides the legacies. :(
I remember CK2 has some bad ass bloodline intrigue abilities.
Someone please give me some ideas. Thank you
Last edited by Saint_Laus_369; Jan 8, 2023 @ 9:19pm
Originally posted by Ashling:
Originally posted by Saint_Laus_369:
thanks for the support. I played CK2. And I can confirm that Shia religion is in the earliest start dates 769 AD start date. The Ummayad
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Start_date
Shia's in CK3 too it's just now a doctrinal issue:
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Faith#Islam

under "Muhammad's Succession".

I think I've seen some complaints about how it's set up and that it's not a good representation of these faiths, though.

That being said, if you want a good assassin religion then sacred lies will get everyone assassinating everyone really quick, best have and maintain a really good intrigue if you go with that doctrine.

Originally posted by Saint_Laus_369:
Branch of the muslim religion .____. Not Hindu
The title says "Ski'ism" when I think you meant "Shi'ism" so that could be where the misunderstanding's coming from, but idk anything about Islam so could be wrong.
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dragonofthecedars Jan 8, 2023 @ 12:32pm 
Hi. Sikhism started around the end of the 15th century, so it would not be historically accurate to include it in this games timeline.
Xi Jinping Jan 8, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
Shia is in the game apparently? in form of isma'ilism and zayidi
i see Ash'ari, Isma'ilism, muhakkima, zayidi

Isma'ilism is a (shia) faith according to the game?
Ash'ari (sunni)

I dont know much about islam or its sectors,


are Isma'ilism and shia suppose to be different?
or split in later years?

Hinduism founded 2300-1500BC
Sikhism is a sector of Hinduism founded in 1500ADs

Just like Protestantism being a Christian sector founded 1520AD


You dont see any Sikhism cause it aint been invented yet probably

Last edited by Xi Jinping; Jan 8, 2023 @ 1:11pm
Saint_Laus_369 Jan 8, 2023 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by dragonofthecedars:
Hi. Sikhism started around the end of the 15th century, so it would not be historically accurate to include it in this games timeline.
Branch of the muslim religion .____. Not Hindu
Saint_Laus_369 Jan 8, 2023 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Xi Jinping:
Shia is in the game apparently? in form of isma'ilism and zayidi
i see Ash'ari, Isma'ilism, muhakkima, zayidi

Isma'ilism is a (shia) faith according to the game?
Ash'ari (sunni)

I dont know much about islam or its sectors,


are Isma'ilism and shia suppose to be different?
or split in later years?

Hinduism founded 2300-1500BC
Sikhism is a sector of Hinduism founded in 1500ADs

Just like Protestantism being a Christian sector founded 1520AD


You dont see any Sikhism cause it aint been invented yet probably
thanks for the support. I played CK2. And I can confirm that Shia religion is in the earliest start dates 769 AD start date. The Ummayad
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Start_date
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Ashling Jan 8, 2023 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Saint_Laus_369:
thanks for the support. I played CK2. And I can confirm that Shia religion is in the earliest start dates 769 AD start date. The Ummayad
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Start_date
Shia's in CK3 too it's just now a doctrinal issue:
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Faith#Islam

under "Muhammad's Succession".

I think I've seen some complaints about how it's set up and that it's not a good representation of these faiths, though.

That being said, if you want a good assassin religion then sacred lies will get everyone assassinating everyone really quick, best have and maintain a really good intrigue if you go with that doctrine.

Originally posted by Saint_Laus_369:
Branch of the muslim religion .____. Not Hindu
The title says "Ski'ism" when I think you meant "Shi'ism" so that could be where the misunderstanding's coming from, but idk anything about Islam so could be wrong.
Last edited by Ashling; Jan 8, 2023 @ 9:09pm
Saint_Laus_369 Jan 8, 2023 @ 9:18pm 
Originally posted by Triangle:
Originally posted by Saint_Laus_369:
thanks for the support. I played CK2. And I can confirm that Shia religion is in the earliest start dates 769 AD start date. The Ummayad
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Start_date
Shia's in CK3 too it's just now a doctrinal issue:
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Faith#Islam

under "Muhammad's Succession".

I think I've seen some complaints about how it's set up and that it's not a good representation of these faiths, though.

That being said, if you want a good assassin religion then sacred lies will get everyone assassinating everyone really quick, best have and maintain a really good intrigue if you go with that doctrine.

Originally posted by Saint_Laus_369:
Branch of the muslim religion .____. Not Hindu
The title says "Ski'ism" when I think you meant "Shi'ism" so that could be where the misunderstanding's coming from, but idk anything about Islam so could be wrong.
Glad we got the misunderstanding out of the way . Yes Muslim. ANd sacred lies is yuck. I want some intrigue for killing my siblings early age.
R.T. Jan 8, 2023 @ 11:46pm 
They split the shia and sunni to the sub faith, and consider the shia and sunni as the succession of prophet.
Well, it's some kind of the swedes of view of history,
Toblm Jan 9, 2023 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by R.T.:
They split the shia and sunni to the sub faith, and consider the shia and sunni as the succession of prophet.
Well, it's some kind of the swedes of view of history,
It's religion. Not matter how they categorize it, they will be wrong according to someone.
dragonofthecedars Jan 9, 2023 @ 12:54pm 
As a clarification, Sikhism is neither a branch of the Hindu or Muslim region. It is a separate religion started in India in the late 1400's by Guru Nanak. It is the world's fifth largest religion today. If anything, its teachings tried to bridge the teachings of Islam and Hinduism which were both strongly present in India at that time. Sikhism is in no way connected to the assassins, who were a Nizārī Ismāʿīlī order and sect of Shīʿa Islam that existed between 1090 and 1275, and lived in the mountains of Persia and in Syria,
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