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dannyvader007 (Banned) Jan 6, 2023 @ 12:53pm
CK3 seduce, Seduce, Seduce, Seduce and Seduce
That's what only happens in CK3's dumb bot. It seduces spouses and it even seduces when it's already also married to a spouse. Then it seduces your soulmate and your soulmate cheats on you. Then you grant a title to a vassals and 1 yearl later he is already seducing the wife of another vassal. Then the adulterer wife continues to cheat like as if it wasn't a crime and a sin. She fornicates and commits adultery like as if it was a virtue of the religion. No deterrence. Just keep on committing adultery. What's the point of marriages then?

There shouldn't be marriages in this game because spouses just arbitrarily cheat on each other like as if it was a challenge - "who has the most lovers? Challenge" - and who fornicates and cheats the most.

Paradox, if your game is not about marriages and spouses, then why don't you just take out the marriages and replace them for hook ups??? Seriously, just stop calling a marriage and call it a hook up instead. When the character gets bored of their old hook up, he or she can just hook up with another person or multiple people without getting in trouble.

Just stop calling it a marriage, please. The game is all about seducing and fornicating and cheating on spouse. There shouldn't be marriages. It should just be called hook ups.

The game is all about hook ups. There's literally no point with marriages. That's how bad it is. The bot is just seducing every body.
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CrUsHeR Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
What your a telling completly wrong, because the base game has not a single buggy event at release, this have only started with Royal Court.

At release, every feast resulted in close family members becoming lovers. Your mother with both of your brothers, you son and your wife, literally all the time.

TBH it was so bad, i've been suspecting they may have had these "bugs" on purpose to make the game get more publicity for being so scandalous.
Emperor2000 Jan 7, 2023 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
What your a telling completly wrong, because the base game has not a single buggy event at release, this have only started with Royal Court.

At release, every feast resulted in close family members becoming lovers. Your mother with both of your brothers, you son and your wife, literally all the time.

TBH it was so bad, i've been suspecting they may have had these "bugs" on purpose to make the game get more publicity for being so scandalous.
Not true, I have host many feasts in the 1.0 version of the game and this was never case for me,

The seduction bug is part of 1.5 and Royal Court.
dannyvader007 (Banned) Jan 7, 2023 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

At release, every feast resulted in close family members becoming lovers. Your mother with both of your brothers, you son and your wife, literally all the time.

TBH it was so bad, i've been suspecting they may have had these "bugs" on purpose to make the game get more publicity for being so scandalous.
Not true, I have host many feasts in the 1.0 version of the game and this was never case for me,

The seduction bug is part of 1.5 and Royal Court.

Yes 1.5 and royal courts made seduction more crazy, but 1.7. also made it more crazy because they added more stupid seduction events where you to have sex with the spouse of your dead friend and the event where you have sex with your your wife and a random man. There's even another event where it makes a spouse cheat on their spouse for no reason.

I'm switching to knights of honour 2. I want to play a real game, not a game about stupid hook ups. CK3 is nothing but hook ups and it has no real motivation to fix issues and expand on the stuff that was about being a government. Instead they want add more hook up events. It feels like I'm playing tinder and Instagram where you know it's all about stupid hook ups.
CrUsHeR Jan 7, 2023 @ 7:07am 
So... we learned a new word today?

The "hook ups" ?
dannyvader007 (Banned) Jan 7, 2023 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
So... we learned a new word today?

The "hook ups" ?

That is what CK3 is about!! I'm not exaggerating. And yes that's the correct term for everything that happens in CK3.
Emperor2000 Jan 7, 2023 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by dannyvader007:
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Not true, I have host many feasts in the 1.0 version of the game and this was never case for me,

The seduction bug is part of 1.5 and Royal Court.

Yes 1.5 and royal courts made seduction more crazy, but 1.7. also made it more crazy because they added more stupid seduction events where you to have sex with the spouse of your dead friend and the event where you have sex with your your wife and a random man. There's even another event where it makes a spouse cheat on their spouse for no reason.

I'm switching to knights of honour 2. I want to play a real game, not a game about stupid hook ups. CK3 is nothing but hook ups and it has no real motivation to fix issues and expand on the stuff that was about being a government. Instead they want add more hook up events. It feels like I'm playing tinder and Instagram where you know it's all about stupid hook ups.
Yes, Knights of Honor 2, is far more better than CK3, the AI is not perfect, but at least 100x better than the AI of CK3.
Last edited by Emperor2000; Jan 7, 2023 @ 8:26am
dannyvader007 (Banned) Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Originally posted by dannyvader007:

Yes 1.5 and royal courts made seduction more crazy, but 1.7. also made it more crazy because they added more stupid seduction events where you to have sex with the spouse of your dead friend and the event where you have sex with your your wife and a random man. There's even another event where it makes a spouse cheat on their spouse for no reason.

I'm switching to knights of honour 2. I want to play a real game, not a game about stupid hook ups. CK3 is nothing but hook ups and it has no real motivation to fix issues and expand on the stuff that was about being a government. Instead they want add more hook up events. It feels like I'm playing tinder and Instagram where you know it's all about stupid hook ups.
Yes, Knights of Honor 2, is far more better than CK3, the AI is not perfect, but at least 100x better than the AI of CK3.

I bet they do listen to their fan base and don't torture us with stupid AI seduction where our wives cheat on us and our daughters and sisters cheat on their spouses and lustful mayors who always seducing daughters and granddaughter while already being married.

Does knights of honour let you have a spouse???
Because if they let us have a spouse that doesn't cheat and daughters who have honour, I will totally switch. I'm tired of dumb seducing bot that destroys my marriages.
Emperor2000 Jan 7, 2023 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by dannyvader007:
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Yes, Knights of Honor 2, is far more better than CK3, the AI is not perfect, but at least 100x better than the AI of CK3.

I bet they do listen to their fan base and don't torture us with stupid AI seduction where our wives cheat on us and our daughters and sisters cheat on their spouses and lustful mayors who always seducing daughters and granddaughter while already being married.

Does knights of honour let you have a spouse???
Because if they let us have a spouse that doesn't cheat and daughters who have honour, I will totally switch. I'm tired of dumb seducing bot that destroys my marriages.
Knights of Honor is called Knights of Honor for a reason, there is no dishonor in this game.

Spouses and daughters can not cheat, because cheating is not in the game.

And the Knights are loyal to you and can not be recruited by other kingdoms, if they are in prison, but if you exile them, they can be recruited.
But Knights can rebel, if your King dies without an Heir, because then a Knight will take over, but other Knights at the Royal Court don't have to accept this.
dannyvader007 (Banned) Jan 7, 2023 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by Mo0on:
This is one of the major reason I don't care about any of the characters in this game. They don't act like people worth caring about. Infidelity wasn't just looked down upon in medieval Europe it was a crime punishable by death for women specifically. Yet, women in CK3 go around committing adultery like its the only way into heaven. And executing them is often tyranny in CK3, lul. As if that wasn't a literal sport people looked forward too watching back then.

Its funny to me paradox wanted to pander to everyone no matter what that they gave women more rights in the game than they were often allowed even under patriarch historical realism. Like 40% of the rulers are women, even if you have it set so that women cannot inherit titles in your empire they still do.

Catholicism isn't setup correctly as its more similar to modern day Catholicism where female adultery is shunned not criminal. Sorry to say, but the way the game has all this setup is just not real and is only made so that women's feelings don't get hurt while they play this game.

And lets be honest in the game when you get married your wife gives you stats. But in real life it should give you melancholic+alcohol+weed trait, drain your stats and cause you massive haemorrhages of stress.

You speak my language!!! Seriously, females in Ck3 commit adultery and fornication like as if it was a virtue and an accomplishment to get to heaven, and they keep on doing it like as if there was no punishments for such nasty crimes. This is why CK3 is stupid. It has no logic. Yes in medieval Europe fornication and adultery were crimes and women were lawfully executed for that reason without being tyranny. It was a way of keeping justice and teaching women not to cheat and to behave with honor. But CK3 wants to look at fornication and adultery like virtues. This game is stupid and it is nothing like the medieval times where women were jusltly punished for committing adultery and fornication. Even Queens were punished for committing any type of fornication and adultery because their kings could easily torture them with pain and could just chop off her head.

Fornication and adultery weren't any joke or game as this game wants to consider it as such. CK3 makes fornication and adultery look like as if they were just little teenage hook ups and games, but it was so much different. Even the male emperors were afraid of their religions like Orthodoxy and Catholicism, they had to obey their religion. Medieval Europe wasn't dominated by females like in CK3.
CK3 is nothing but stupid hook ups.
dannyvader007 (Banned) Jan 7, 2023 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Originally posted by dannyvader007:

I bet they do listen to their fan base and don't torture us with stupid AI seduction where our wives cheat on us and our daughters and sisters cheat on their spouses and lustful mayors who always seducing daughters and granddaughter while already being married.

Does knights of honour let you have a spouse???
Because if they let us have a spouse that doesn't cheat and daughters who have honour, I will totally switch. I'm tired of dumb seducing bot that destroys my marriages.
Knights of Honor is called Knights of Honor for a reason, there is no dishonor in this game.

Spouses and daughters can not cheat, because cheating is not in the game.

And the Knights are loyal to you and can not be recruited by other kingdoms, if they are in prison, but if you exile them, they can be recruited.
But Knights can rebel, if your King dies without an Heir, because then a Knight will take over, but other Knights at the Royal Court don't have to accept this.
I'm switching to kinights of honour!!
Mo0on Jan 8, 2023 @ 12:07am 
Originally posted by dannyvader007:
Originally posted by Mo0on:
This is one of the major reason I don't care about any of the characters in this game. They don't act like people worth caring about. Infidelity wasn't just looked down upon in medieval Europe it was a crime punishable by death for women specifically. Yet, women in CK3 go around committing adultery like its the only way into heaven. And executing them is often tyranny in CK3, lul. As if that wasn't a literal sport people looked forward too watching back then.

Its funny to me paradox wanted to pander to everyone no matter what that they gave women more rights in the game than they were often allowed even under patriarch historical realism. Like 40% of the rulers are women, even if you have it set so that women cannot inherit titles in your empire they still do.

Catholicism isn't setup correctly as its more similar to modern day Catholicism where female adultery is shunned not criminal. Sorry to say, but the way the game has all this setup is just not real and is only made so that women's feelings don't get hurt while they play this game.

And lets be honest in the game when you get married your wife gives you stats. But in real life it should give you melancholic+alcohol+weed trait, drain your stats and cause you massive haemorrhages of stress.

You speak my language!!! Seriously, females in Ck3 commit adultery and fornication like as if it was a virtue and an accomplishment to get to heaven, and they keep on doing it like as if there was no punishments for such nasty crimes. This is why CK3 is stupid. It has no logic. Yes in medieval Europe fornication and adultery were crimes and women were lawfully executed for that reason without being tyranny. It was a way of keeping justice and teaching women not to cheat and to behave with honor. But CK3 wants to look at fornication and adultery like virtues. This game is stupid and it is nothing like the medieval times where women were jusltly punished for committing adultery and fornication. Even Queens were punished for committing any type of fornication and adultery because their kings could easily torture them with pain and could just chop off her head.

Fornication and adultery weren't any joke or game as this game wants to consider it as such. CK3 makes fornication and adultery look like as if they were just little teenage hook ups and games, but it was so much different. Even the male emperors were afraid of their religions like Orthodoxy and Catholicism, they had to obey their religion. Medieval Europe wasn't dominated by females like in CK3.
CK3 is nothing but stupid hook ups.

Women were treated so badly back then that if queens did not produce a male heir in Europe they were often either assassinated/executed or openly publicly cheated on. This is because it was easier to do these other options rather than get a divorce because it had to be approved by the pope himself. And not just any peasant can ask for a divorce. The pope would want bribes from nobles to accept divorces.

And occasionally the pope would want to buy goods cheaply from you or want troops from you and if you declined and ever needed a divorce or help from the catholic world the pope would say no. You had to keep the pope happy. He was the most powerful man in all Europe and in the game he is a joke you can conquer with ten thousand troops.

If you took Rome with ten thousand troops in real life, every catholic ruler would be on your doorstep within the year. At once. Hundreds of thousands of troops.

In CK3 you can peacefully keep Rome and the catholic's don't care about the pope.
Last edited by Mo0on; Jan 8, 2023 @ 12:20am
Emperor2000 Jan 8, 2023 @ 3:41am 
Originally posted by Mo0on:
Originally posted by dannyvader007:

You speak my language!!! Seriously, females in Ck3 commit adultery and fornication like as if it was a virtue and an accomplishment to get to heaven, and they keep on doing it like as if there was no punishments for such nasty crimes. This is why CK3 is stupid. It has no logic. Yes in medieval Europe fornication and adultery were crimes and women were lawfully executed for that reason without being tyranny. It was a way of keeping justice and teaching women not to cheat and to behave with honor. But CK3 wants to look at fornication and adultery like virtues. This game is stupid and it is nothing like the medieval times where women were jusltly punished for committing adultery and fornication. Even Queens were punished for committing any type of fornication and adultery because their kings could easily torture them with pain and could just chop off her head.

Fornication and adultery weren't any joke or game as this game wants to consider it as such. CK3 makes fornication and adultery look like as if they were just little teenage hook ups and games, but it was so much different. Even the male emperors were afraid of their religions like Orthodoxy and Catholicism, they had to obey their religion. Medieval Europe wasn't dominated by females like in CK3.
CK3 is nothing but stupid hook ups.

Women were treated so badly back then that if queens did not produce a male heir in Europe they were often either assassinated/executed or openly publicly cheated on. This is because it was easier to do these other options rather than get a divorce because it had to be approved by the pope himself. And not just any peasant can ask for a divorce. The pope would want bribes from nobles to accept divorces.

And occasionally the pope would want to buy goods cheaply from you or want troops from you and if you declined and ever needed a divorce or help from the catholic world the pope would say no. You had to keep the pope happy. He was the most powerful man in all Europe and in the game he is a joke you can conquer with ten thousand troops.

If you took Rome with ten thousand troops in real life, every catholic ruler would be on your doorstep within the year. At once. Hundreds of thousands of troops.

In CK3 you can peacefully keep Rome and the catholic's don't care about the pope.
A Queen has only had 1 obligation to the King, to produce a male heir and if they don't do it, they have broken their oath to the King, so they were in most cases executed, because no one wanted a daugther in medieval times
(Because of succession issues, because the husband of the Daugther can claim titles, when the father of the daughter dies).

And I don't know why this is not in CK3, in Knights of Honor 1 + 2 it is part of the game.
Xi Jinping Jan 8, 2023 @ 9:11am 
Jorvik BROKE for this reason
Saga "The truthspeaker" is really one bugged cheater that needs removed
and just cheats with sigfrid or gufrid all the time(50% of saves)

Played 100s of saves with whiteshirt and find shes a rigged incest

I want to play females also like saga but they always ruin the game by getting seduced by random drunk out of range AI mayor or family

Saga is also getting seduced by (Dyre the stranger) who is also out of range LOL
her own out of range bro in kiev






CKIII Adultery just as broke as the sid meirs CIVs AI diplomacy

CIV VI: my ally spys on me and denounces me and bans my silver through congress

CKIII: your daughter/son seduces random out of range mayors in india with no penalty
and make the player a tyrant?


Experiment
HOW COME ALSO THE PLAYER GETS CAUGHT ADULTERING WITHIN ONE DAY?


THE NINJA CASANOVA AI: Seduce the whole map and get revealed 40 years later,
they also get unlimited diplomatic range

It needs fixed!







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Aldon Jan 9, 2023 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Originally posted by Mo0on:

Women were treated so badly back then that if queens did not produce a male heir in Europe they were often either assassinated/executed or openly publicly cheated on. This is because it was easier to do these other options rather than get a divorce because it had to be approved by the pope himself. And not just any peasant can ask for a divorce. The pope would want bribes from nobles to accept divorces.

And occasionally the pope would want to buy goods cheaply from you or want troops from you and if you declined and ever needed a divorce or help from the catholic world the pope would say no. You had to keep the pope happy. He was the most powerful man in all Europe and in the game he is a joke you can conquer with ten thousand troops.

If you took Rome with ten thousand troops in real life, every catholic ruler would be on your doorstep within the year. At once. Hundreds of thousands of troops.

In CK3 you can peacefully keep Rome and the catholic's don't care about the pope.
A Queen has only had 1 obligation to the King, to produce a male heir and if they don't do it, they have broken their oath to the King, so they were in most cases executed, because no one wanted a daugther in medieval times
(Because of succession issues, because the husband of the Daugther can claim titles, when the father of the daughter dies).

And I don't know why this is not in CK3, in Knights of Honor 1 + 2 it is part of the game.


Well, I know movies and such are todays history lessons. It would help your cause, if you name some examples for this, but i doubt you'll find any, beside Henry VIII, who wasn't really a medieval king anymore.

For me it's of little interest if or how often my spouse in the game will "cheat" (I doesn't owe her) on me. I have my lovers and let her have hers. There is no romantic postmodern lie, like it's marriage out of love in this times (it happens, or sometimes love grows). There are plenty of other possibilties to gain a heir. 'In most of my games I don't even bother to marry, or I marry a guy (as man) for good alliance and have some offsprings with either concubines or I just legalize one bastard.
Grymogen Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:28pm 
At 8th gen now and there is still not any cheating happening with my main line of rulers. Is that just damn good luck? Some of it is just by default as around 1/3 of the rulers (and longest reigning) were women.

I think I spend 80% of this game playing 'the matchmaker' to ensure the best compatibility for everyone - every vassal, every courtier, every ward with their guardian etc.

But honestly, the marriages are not for some romantic notion of love - they are political (or trait boost) marriages!

For adulterers and fornicators, I usually just grant tonnes of pardons all the time too...
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