CK3 seduce, Seduce, Seduce, Seduce and Seduce

[dannyvader007]

That's what only happens in CK3's dumb bot. It seduces spouses and it even seduces when it's already also married to a spouse. Then it seduces your soulmate and your soulmate cheats on you. Then you grant a title to a vassals and 1 yearl later he is already seducing the wife of another vassal. Then the adulterer wife continues to cheat like as if it wasn't a crime and a sin. She fornicates and commits adultery like as if it was a virtue of the religion. No deterrence. Just keep on committing adultery. What's the point of marriages then?

There shouldn't be marriages in this game because spouses just arbitrarily cheat on each other like as if it was a challenge - "who has the most lovers? Challenge" - and who fornicates and cheats the most.

Paradox, if your game is not about marriages and spouses, then why don't you just take out the marriages and replace them for hook ups??? Seriously, just stop calling a marriage and call it a hook up instead. When the character gets bored of their old hook up, he or she can just hook up with another person or multiple people without getting in trouble.

Just stop calling it a marriage, please. The game is all about seducing and fornicating and cheating on spouse. There shouldn't be marriages. It should just be called hook ups.

The game is all about hook ups. There's literally no point with marriages. That's how bad it is. The bot is just seducing every body.

[Grymogen]

This is only happening for minor vassals or unimportant members in my dynasty for me, so I couldn't care less. I am having a good run so far, and at the 5th gen ruler, there's been no cheating or seducing happening between my rulers and their spouses. The funny thing, however, is that my heir has had 7 divorces already!

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by Grymogen:

This is only happening for minor vassals or unimportant members in my dynasty for me, so I couldn't care less. I am having a good run so far, and at the 5th gen ruler, there's been no cheating or seducing happening between my rulers and their spouses. The funny thing, however, is that my heir has had 7 divorces already!

It should not be called a betrothal or a marriage, it should just be called a hook up. So instead of arranging a marriage, it should say "arranging a hook up".

How many hours have you played Ck3?

My vassals are always cheating on their wives and they are either my daughter, sister or aunts. My daughter are attractive but they still cheat on them with women who look like frogs. My daughter at age 76 cheated on my brother and she got lover's pox and I had to execute her so that she wouldn't infect my dear brother. I had to remarry him with a granddaughter. My daughter was just, compassionate and a chaste, but decided to have sex with a vassal of mine who had lover's pox , was lustful, vengeful and calm. Seriously???

It should be called arranging hook ups, instead of arranging a marriage.

[dannyvader007]

Arranging Hook Ups

Why is this not an option since everybody cheats and honor isn't a thing in this game??? It should just be called arranging hook ups, so that I know that every realtion is a hook up and a dead friends spouse always wants to seduce you and your daughters.

[dannyvader007]

HOW CAN I ARRANGE HOOK UP??

There's no point of marriages so it's just better to hook up my daughter with anybody and they can fornicate and have 10 lovers without breaking alliances. Likewise for sons. We should be able to arrange hook ups instead of arranging marriages.

[Ogami]

Jesus Christ, can you give it a rest?
We get it , you dont like the characters seducing each other and cheating their spouses.
You dont have to repeat yourself in every thread.
Go play something else if its annoying you so much.

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Jesus Christ, can you give it a rest?
We get it , you dont like the characters seducing each other and cheating their spouses.
You dont have to repeat yourself in every thread.
Go play something else then if its annoying you so much.

But it's better to arrange hook ups since we all know that there no point of marriages. With a hook up my daughter can cheat without breaking my alliances and without getting executed. My daughter can have 20 lovers and all her kids can have lover's pox. All my alliances are broken because my daughters cheat on their spouses and then I'm left without allies.

[PostalGibbon]

I don't know have you played from release date of 2020, but version of game we have now is kindergarten version of cheating compared what it was in 1.0 version.

Examples opinions were bugged more your wife liked you more she cheated (you had to throw your wife in to dungeon and whip her to lower opinion). It was literally impossible to find child who wasn't bastard in debug mode)

Another example random event that changed your legitimate child in the bastard and changed father of the child.

Cheating is still rampart but is nothing compared to earlier versions of game (that opinion bug fix removed something like 90% of seductions attempts).

And yes i also hate cheating not because it's happening, but because it's so unbelievable like mayor from other side of world seduces your son's wife in your court etc.

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by dannyvader007:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Jesus Christ, can you give it a rest?
We get it , you dont like the characters seducing each other and cheating their spouses.
You dont have to repeat yourself in every thread.
Go play something else then if its annoying you so much.

But it's better to arrange hook ups since we all know that there no point of marriages. With a hook up my daughter can cheat without breaking my alliances and without getting executed. My daughter can have 20 lovers and all her kids can have lover's pox. All my alliances are broken because my daughters cheat on their spouses and then I'm left without allies.

1st what you described has never happened to me.

2nd alliances are more of a burden than a benefit. It’s best if they all break.

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by PostalGibbon:

I don't know have you played from release date of 2020, but version of game we have now is kindergarten version of cheating compared what it was in 1.0 version.

Examples opinions were bugged more your wife liked you more she cheated (you had to throw your wife in to dungeon and whip her to lower opinion). It was literally impossible to find child who wasn't bastard in debug mode)

Another example random event that changed your legitimate child in the bastard and changed father of the child.

Cheating is still rampart but is nothing compared to earlier versions of game (that opinion bug fix removed something like 90% of seductions attempts).

And yes i also hate cheating not because it's happening, but because it's so unbelievable like mayor from other side of world seduces your son's wife in your court etc.

It's still worst, if not even more worst because there are tons of new seduction events where the spouse has to be unfaithful and get lovers pox. Therefore, technically it's more worst now. There's the servant romance event and there is the event where your rival can sleep with your wife and daughters. Oh, and there is also the events when a random vassal can make and artifact for you and you automatically become his or her lover. That happened to me and I was baffled because I turned into his lover because he created an artifact for me at my birthday. It didn't even give me an option to decline him.

Marriages don't matter. They should just be called hook ups. Most of my alliances are destroyed because my honest, just and chaste daughter cheats on my handsome genius vassal with an ugly frog 🐸.

I don't know why developers just can't make it a hook up so that our daughters can have as many lovers and bastards or illegitimate children without breaking alliances.

[dwarfpcfan]

get the mod "More rules", open your games rules and just move the seduction slider to suit your needs. *done*

[dannyvader007]

Originally posted by Kimlin:

Originally posted by dannyvader007:

But it's better to arrange hook ups since we all know that there no point of marriages. With a hook up my daughter can cheat without breaking my alliances and without getting executed. My daughter can have 20 lovers and all her kids can have lover's pox. All my alliances are broken because my daughters cheat on their spouses and then I'm left without allies.

1st what you described has never happened to me.

2nd alliances are more of a burden than a benefit. It’s best if they all break.

But my vassals always seduce my daughters and then my vassals seduce the wives of my other vassals. There should just be hook ups so that adultery and fornication can turn to virtues and lover's pox can turn into an attractive trait.

[PostalGibbon]

Well you can say that game raises some strong feelings....
(And here i thought that some of my blood boiling of the subject of seduction/adultery is little overboard sometimes... but i'm mere apprentice).

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by PostalGibbon:

I don't know have you played from release date of 2020, but version of game we have now is kindergarten version of cheating compared what it was in 1.0 version.

Examples opinions were bugged more your wife liked you more she cheated (you had to throw your wife in to dungeon and whip her to lower opinion). It was literally impossible to find child who wasn't bastard in debug mode)

Another example random event that changed your legitimate child in the bastard and changed father of the child.

Cheating is still rampart but is nothing compared to earlier versions of game (that opinion bug fix removed something like 90% of seductions attempts).

And yes i also hate cheating not because it's happening, but because it's so unbelievable like mayor from other side of world seduces your son's wife in your court etc.

What your a telling completly wrong, because the base game has not a single buggy event at release, this have only started with Royal Court.

Check the code before telling, what it is not true and by the way the fake bastard event, could be completly avoided if your heir was a twin, twins can not be bastards in this game, if a mother would give birth to bastard twins, she will lose one child and will only give birth to 1 child.

And how about playing the game in Debug Mode?
The game is too buggy currently to play it without.

[PostalGibbon]

Originally posted by Emperor2000:

Originally posted by PostalGibbon:

I don't know have you played from release date of 2020, but version of game we have now is kindergarten version of cheating compared what it was in 1.0 version.

Examples opinions were bugged more your wife liked you more she cheated (you had to throw your wife in to dungeon and whip her to lower opinion). It was literally impossible to find child who wasn't bastard in debug mode)

Another example random event that changed your legitimate child in the bastard and changed father of the child.

Cheating is still rampart but is nothing compared to earlier versions of game (that opinion bug fix removed something like 90% of seductions attempts).

And yes i also hate cheating not because it's happening, but because it's so unbelievable like mayor from other side of world seduces your son's wife in your court etc.

What your a telling completly wrong, because the base game has not a single buggy event at release, this have only started with Royal Court.

Check the code before telling, what it is not true and by the way the fake bastard event, could be completly avoided if your heir was a twin, twins can not be bastards in this game, if a mother would give birth to bastard twins, she will lose one child and will only give birth to 1 child.

And how about playing the game in Debug Mode?
The game is too buggy currently to play it without.

If my memory serves me correctly the bastard event was removed in first or second patch of ck3. (and it got nothing to do with birth it changed child father to some random bloke when the trigger happened).

Edit: event in question intrigue_scheming_3061_change_father_apply_secret_effect = yes (that i did find in PDX forums 9.9.2020) so there is been these seduction related "problems" long before royal court.

There is probably some threads of it in official PDX forums. (even some game journalist did write story about why there is so many bastards in ck3).

[dannyvader007]

That's why marriages mean nothing in CK3. They are actually hook ups. Arranging hook ups is the correct term.