I could not wage war due to overwhelming pop-ups

[wildlifeluvr]

Fellow players

I do love HOI IV. Play it mostly. I also own Crusader Kings III. Therein lies the problem.

With HOI IV, all my questions I find answers for in-game, Paradox WIKI, tool tips, etc.

Decided to give CK III some play time ... all went OK ... UNTIL my brother Oto went to war against me.

It literally ... and I do mean Literally ... I'm not exaggerating here, this is not a figurative comment, but Literally was impossible to wage war:

*Pop-ups of Every type flooded the screen. From walking in the woods, to birth of my son, to court drama, spymaster finding secrets tons of times, to every possible pop-up it seemed flooded the screen, blocking out the war, of course stopping the clock until the pop-up cleared --and once cleared --Another pop-up immediately appeared again and again, Groundhog Day after Groundhog Day.

*Not only did this make fighting the war impossible but another issue ... when I clicked my army to direct it to where my settlements were getting attacked (in the rare instance where a pop-up waited a few seconds before appearing), I Could Not direct my army to go to the enemy army. Terrain and other large tool info blocked my ability to click the enemy army.

I'm stunned. I had not experienced this game-killing interface crap a few months ago before I started playing HOI IV exclusively. Now, I have no desire to attempt to start CK III again.

How do you others play CK III with these types of interface issues? Is this a new recent post-patch issue? Id on't see others talking about it which stuns me since CK III, to me, is not playable once a war starts.

Appreciate your input. Please advise me on the status of your CK III play time.

[Ogami]

Ok first, do you play on speed 5 during wars? Dont do that.
Go down to 4 or even 3. You also can just pause the game and then issue commands to your armies.
A war rarely needs many inputs in this game, its usually, "command army to go there, siege that" "command army to go there, intercept that army".
Thats about it.

Also it sounds more like you got unlucky with a lot of events triggering during the war you had but honestly, i never had as many popups as you described during a war.
In a 2-3 year war i maybe have a handful of events.
Thats far from unplayable. War is really not the main gameplay feature in CK 3, its something you do every X amount of years maybe but the event managing of your dynasty is the main gameplay.

War is super simple and basically without player input except choosing a decent commander and commanding " go here" now and then and having decent Man At Arms regiments.

HOI 4 is way more involved.

[wildlifeluvr]

Thanks much, Ogami, for your input.

re "Also it sounds more like you got unlucky with a lot of events triggering during the war you had ..."

Incredible. It was like every possible game Role Play pop-up was in que and came one after the other. Cleared one, another hit instantly. Groundhog Day ad infinitum. Countless attempts to clear and choose a option on the pop-up to get back to the war screen but "pop-ups on steroids" kept overwhelming all efforts.

re "speed", I will check that. In HOI IV, I am very conscious of reducing speed during war. It's possible I failed to do that. I will restart and try again and be very conscious of the speed when war starts.

When I played previously, I never recall having either of the issues. As bad as the pop-up issue was, I was very frustrated not being able to direct where my army was to go due to tool tip interference not allowing me to target the enemy. Never experienced that before.

I'm going to reboot, restart, try again. Greatly appreciate your input.

I do wish that Paradox would throttle back the pop-ups during war. I'm sure this can be coded into the game.

[Ogami]

Honestly, just hit the space bar when a war starts, that pauses the game.
You can check if you are paused by the green bar in the lower right that shows your speed
turning red. That means the game is halted.
You can still do everything in this game in paused mode, give orders, go through the menus and everything. So use that, especially if you feel you get overwhelmed by events.
Decide where to raise your armies ( you can set rally points) and then issue orders when they have assembled.
For stuff like sieges of enemy castles ( which is the main way of winning wars) you dont really do much but send your army to it and it will start to siege on its own.
Only time you need more direct input is when a enemy army marches into your lands and you try to catch them. Which can be annoying.
Pause, click through the events that have popped up and then issue the orders you want in peace.

[wildlifeluvr]

UPDATE:

I just read a Dev Diary dated back in October and the developer stated EXACTLY the issue that drove me crazy:

From Dev Diary #109: "There’s also a real problem with delivering content (usually in the form of events) during times of war, as the player more often than not gets interrupted by something appearing in the middle of the screen while maneuvering units. I’d eventually like for us to be able to deliver content in a way that doesn’t interrupt warfare, and use that system to highlight characters and heroic acts."

How about that. Glad to know the developers know this is a big issue.

[Mommy's Good Boy]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Ok first, do you play on speed 5 during wars? Dont do that.

Why not?

[Mo0on]

Originally posted by Jeffrey Epstein:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Ok first, do you play on speed 5 during wars? Dont do that.

Why not?

You'll be interrupted and paused every few seconds. Especially later in the game with more territory, vassals, courtiers, MORE POPUPS.

I only play on speed 4.
1-2-3 is too slow.
5 you can't actually play the game.

[Mommy's Good Boy]

Originally posted by Mo0on:

Originally posted by Jeffrey Epstein:

Why not?

You'll be interrupted and paused every few seconds. Especially later in the game with more territory, vassals, courtiers, MORE POPUPS.

I only play on speed 4.
1-2-3 is too slow.
5 you can't actually play the game.

Idk i've always had it at 5 and it feels fine

[CrUsHeR]

Speed 5 can be pretty spooky with a fast PC.


Like your son was three years old when you last checked on him, two minutes later he is twenty-two and has a beard.

And you only sieged two counties in that time because your culture doesn't have siege weapons.

[nordboerg]

speed 2 here, max 3. total immersion.

but still, could the popups be delayed till the end of the battle at least?? not till the end of the was, just let the damn battle finish please.

[Chemical Burn]

I have stopped playing CK3 until there is some solution for the event spam. I can't stand it anymore. It feels like a game with advertisements constantly popping up that you have to click away. Except I paid for this game.

[mb3]

This has been a problem for a long time, I posted about this same issue over 6 months ago.