Is there a Modern take on this game?

[Lord von Games]

I know about the Hearts game. CK is unique among the paradox strategy titles in that you are not playing a country as some mysterious nameless entity that pulls the strings of a nation, its military, politics, economy, etc - CK is about playing a ruler who "rules" "their own" lands and tries to pass the torch onto a successor, who does more of the same.

Does anyone know of a more modern (non-medieval) "governing" game? Monarchs/Democracies, Etc?

[VipreRX]

There's a game called Rogue State Revolution, but it's sort of a tongue-in-cheek game where you're the leader of a fictional middle eastern nation. There was the Tropico city-builder games where you were "not" Fidel Castro.

CK's style of "grand strategy" game doesn't work in a modern setting because that's not how the modern world works. At best like the examples above you could play as a lone isolated ruler.

[Bloodwyrm Wildheart]

Originally posted by VipreRX:

TCK's style of "grand strategy" game doesn't work in a modern setting because that's not how the modern world works.

Correction: That's not how *our* modern world works. Hint, hint.

[VipreRX]

Well don't leave us in suspense, there some alt-history modern age game out there that isn't a CK mod?

Though I'd argue you're not really in a modern setting rather a reskinned medieval game with modern tech.

[Bloodwyrm Wildheart]

Originally posted by VipreRX:

Well don't leave us in suspense, there some alt-history modern age game out there that isn't a CK mod?

That's my and the OP's question.
Or, rather, my argument that Crusader Kings' style of grand strategy game *does* work in a modern setting, so long as it's a fictional one.

Regarding mods, why there hasn't been a future mod is anyone's guess. There's already a fantasy mod in the form of Elder Kings, I don't see why anything would be off the table.
IMO, CK's system is better than those of Paradox's other games. The character / RP aspect is what really sells it for me.

[Bloodwyrm Wildheart]

Originally posted by VipreRX:

Though I'd argue you're not really in a modern setting rather a reskinned medieval game with modern tech.

Take any character-driven RPG with a modern or futuristic setting and just up the scale to a map with territories and you'd more or less have a modern CK. Obviously only people with enough power and influence could justifiably rule entire territories.
I'm already envisioning a Mount and Blade style game in a cyberpunk setting, so the CK system in modern times isn't difficult for me to visualize.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

Kind of.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/268890/Masters_of_the_World__Geopolitical_Simulator_3/

Do what you will with the Reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtbNJBpXFMo&

There's a quick look at the game if you want it.

Also, apparently there's a fourth one also: http://www.power-and-revolution.com/news.php

Not on Steam though.

[Lord von Games]

Power and Revolution is#4 and there is a new 2022 version, includes more "elections" and underdog, etc... BUT it's extremely shallow in capturing the feeling of being "Presidential" game, especially the superpowers.

[VipreRX]

Originally posted by Bloodwyrm Wildheart:

Take any character-driven RPG with a modern or futuristic setting and just up the scale to a map with territories and you'd more or less have a modern CK. Obviously only people with enough power and influence could justifiably rule entire territories.
I'm already envisioning a Mount and Blade style game in a cyberpunk setting, so the CK system in modern times isn't difficult for me to visualize. :LaughingOwlcat:

So not a modern setting but a setting where modern civilization has broken down and been replaced by warlords just with modern tech.

[Ogami]

"Star Dynasties" is basically Crusader Kings in Space but thats definitely more SciFi then "modern times".

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1194590/Star_Dynasties/

[Bloodwyrm Wildheart]

Originally posted by VipreRX:

So not a modern setting but a setting where modern civilization has broken down and been replaced by warlords just with modern tech.

That's another idea. Really, the possibilities are endless.

[Lord von Games]

Hoping for a good blend of RPG-sim-RTS with political manipulations focused on the player as a leader (not the player as some omni-presence nation) as brilliantly executed as CK3

All you need is to replace the family faction with your "party", and you are always striving to appoint your party-family to better postings. Laws become... laws. Marriages of influence become marriages of influence (with absaloute prejudice preventing international alliance marriages, etc. Player's actual family become the Kennedys. Democracy comes from Byzantium. City development is automated based off budgets, with "signifigant government infrastructure" as player directed. Wars remain wars with conscripts for major wars, and proffessional > proffesional units. Court becomes the Cabinet of ministers. Mistresses become Marlyn Monroe. And other factions become other "parties". Lords become governors. Clergy becomes Clergy. Throw in some "announcement" press conferences. Spying and sabotage becomes the daily Watergate.

[Kimlin]

This is a mod for CK3.

https://youtu.be/z-xLJ3bPvZg

[Lord von Games]

LOL. Still hoping for suggestions on games that might be like CK3, but bring the modern world rpg-sim (I really doubt a mod will ever do it).

[Ashling]

Originally posted by Lord von Fleck:

Hoping for a good blend of RPG-sim-RTS with political manipulations focused on the player as a leader (not the player as some omni-presence nation) as brilliantly executed as CK3

Honestly, I don't think you're gonna find a game like that outside of Paradox. Surprisingly, games don't often have that much in common in terms of game play despite how many that're out there. Unless it's a souls-like. I can name like 50 souls-like including one set in the modern day.

If you want exactly what you wish for, though, I think you might have to mod the game. You might be too busy for it, but 1 hour modding is another hour closer! (And, honestly, I think it'd be super possible. Especially if CK3 ever comes out with merchant republic mechanics like they did for CK2. In fact, it might be easier in CK2 to mod this exact thing?)

For some loose-y goose-y guesses, I can think of games that have some, but not all of those things you mentioned.

Like Spellforce is an RPG-RTS with a "you are an important leader" backdrop but it's a fantasy rpg, not modern day, most of their games are linear and none of them simulate a world. (Still, great series. Is legitimately the only true RTS I enjoy)

There's a few games that are RPG-modern day politics but they're mostly visual novels. I think Suzerain has the most game play of the visual novels and Democracy 4 also exists despite my wishes for it not to.

Can't go wrong with a cult. Shrouded Isle will be my hail marry (it's not worth full price; only really worth it for the cult thing).

[Lord von Games]

Suzerain is a GREAT game... in many ways it brings the kind of stories that CK3 can bring... only of course, CK3 is an AMAZING non-linear story generator sandbox... and Suzy is... as you say, more VN.