what triggers the Cretan culture divergence?

[(Rúna)]

Have begun another play, and starting off as a county on Cyprus, went on to conquer Krete and recently formed it as a kingdom. Have looked to diverge Greek culture numerous times already, but the proposed name for the cultures are always named after my county only. Not the duchy or, now, kingdom.

I know I have seen cultures of Cyprus and Krete reform from Greek when playing elsewhere in the Byzantine empire, so I am wondering if there is a specific trigger, such as date or other requisite? It doesn't seem to be simply form the duchy or kingdom :/

[Mithras]

It's because you *conquered* Crete, try it again but this time play as Crete or have Crete as your capital realm (might work better if it was the only thing in your realm). You can always just type in a name of your choosing too.

[(Rúna)]

Originally posted by Caz:

It's because you *conquered* Crete, try it again but this time play as Crete or have Crete as your capital realm (might work better if it was the only thing in your realm). You can always just type in a name of your choosing too.

oh, i didnt think that would matter as my dynasty is fellow greeks from neighbouring island. Hmm. May start new campaign then

[(Rúna)]

Originally posted by Caz:

It's because you *conquered* Crete, try it again but this time play as Crete or have Crete as your capital realm (might work better if it was the only thing in your realm). You can always just type in a name of your choosing too.

Hmmmm... The more I think about this, the less sense it makes. I started off as a Greek, a fellow vassal in the Byzantine empire, landed in a county on Cyprus. By the time I conquered the duchy of Krete, it was already past the time it has formed in previous games. I had tried to create a new culture when I was on Cyprus AND when I had relocated my capitol to Krete, before AND after I had conquered the necessary duchy title for creating the Kingdom of Krete. At none of these stages was I offered a change to diverge, like has happened naturally in many other locations during different playthroughs, nor when I went to manually diverge, which just proposed a name after my capitol's county.

I know I can change a cultures name when manually diverging, but I'm wanting the specific Cretan culture that is formed from Greek on the Island of Krete