Crusader Kings III

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NorPhi Jul 28, 2022 @ 4:23pm
Restore the 'Pope to Rome' and 'Return Roma' decisions
The descriptions are a little lackluster, Return Roma sounds like giving back the county to an independent Pope but then what does the other decision do? Turn him into A vassal in my Empire? It doesn't say, so I fear both will just make me lose my county.
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vortex_13 Jul 28, 2022 @ 4:55pm 
Yes, you're giving away a county. The pope won't be your vassal.
NorPhi Jul 28, 2022 @ 5:00pm 
So both decisions do exactly the same. What is the difference then?
kalanyr Jul 28, 2022 @ 5:48pm 
If you're an Emperor you can keep the pope as your vassal, by granting him a second county within your realm alongside Rome (the Pope is normally going free because Roma is the nominal capital of the Catholic HoF title which is what is causing an unlanded Pope to be your vassal).

The main differences though

Return Roma is a religious decision
It allows any independent Catholic ruler to return Rome to the Pope (if such exists) provided the Pope is not a vassal of theirs (and they have some other county).

Restore the Pope to Rome is a regional decision
It allows a Capabale, Non-imprisoned, Catholic ruler, who is a King or Emperor, who does not hold k_papal_states, or the Roman Empire or have Roma set as their capital, to return Roma to the Pope (even if the pope is a Vassal)

(Looking at the code and the completely different way the requirements are coded to achieve the same goals, I suspect the real reason these both exist is that 2 people had this idea in separate parts of the development and they left both in because they do slightly different things).
NorPhi Jul 29, 2022 @ 4:34am 
So... now that I've mended the great schism for Catholicism I've to wipe the Papacy from the map and vassalize the Pope through what technically are bugs before I can get rid of Rome? Great....
Pumukion Jul 29, 2022 @ 8:19am 
you can force vassalize the Popy with the diplomacie trait if his realm ist small enough
NorPhi Jul 29, 2022 @ 8:43am 
Then I won't bother and just take all the land. For a game called crussader kings all the religion mechanics are really half-baked.
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Date Posted: Jul 28, 2022 @ 4:23pm
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