how the hell does Chess work?

[Caligula]

obviously this is about Chess in ck3,not actual Chess

but yeah...how does it even work? obviously its like RPS,but there's no indications of what's happening or going to happen asides from everything seeming to counter what the Player does,and all 3 options (martial,intrigue,learning) seem to be somewhat affected by the stat. but it really just seems like its randomly chosen.

is there some sort of tell in the text prompts im missing? do you just spam your best stat and hope for the best? is it even worth gaining 10-30 stress each time one of my numerous brothers challenges it to me?

[skela]

A very good Question, after looking into the Game files (a miles long) I have to say I do not understand it :O
It seems that it is the same Mechanic as the Duels and so there are a lot of temporary Modifiers around and I have the impression that there is something like a Scissor, Paper, Stone Game around with Martial, Intrigue, Learning ... would suggest it is more of a Gambling Game - but do not quote me on anything ;)

[Mentos]

It isn't clear, as skela said there are temporarily modifiers according to strategy but generally you just want to try and choose a strategy that pits a stat of yours against the other's in which yours is higher. It says which stats are involved. I win about 50% of the games just using the same stat over and over.

[Johnny 5]

Shoulda had a puzzle board to chosen which moves to make, woulda been more fun than the current wall of text

[Admod, the Equivocal]

You guys have me a bit scared. Did they add the chess with death event to ck3?

[AquilaESP]

The chess game is an event in which you have options for your value of intrigue, martial, learning, etc.

Example: if you choose your intrigue value, it is compared with the opponent's intrigue value and the one with the highest intrigue value has more chances of winning.

[Ouka]

Originally posted by AquilaESP:

Example: if you choose your intrigue value, it is compared with the opponent's intrigue value and the one with the highest intrigue value has more chances of winning.

It usually works that way, but with chess each of your stats is checked against another stat. If you use the intrigue option, it is checked against your enemy's learning. If you hover your mouse over the dialogue options it says which stat is used at the top.

[Johnny 5]

Originally posted by Ouka:

Originally posted by AquilaESP:

Example: if you choose your intrigue value, it is compared with the opponent's intrigue value and the one with the highest intrigue value has more chances of winning.

It usually works that way, but with chess each of your stats is checked against another stat. If you use the intrigue option, it is checked against your enemy's learning. If you hover your mouse over the dialogue options it says which stat is used at the top.

But is there any reason not to just click the same one for each event once you work out the best stat choice for a particular game?

[AquilaESP]

Originally posted by Ouka:

Originally posted by AquilaESP:

Example: if you choose your intrigue value, it is compared with the opponent's intrigue value and the one with the highest intrigue value has more chances of winning.

It usually works that way, but with chess each of your stats is checked against another stat. If you use the intrigue option, it is checked against your enemy's learning. If you hover your mouse over the dialogue options it says which stat is used at the top.

Good knowi it :)

[Jerubius]

What's worked for me is looking at my opponent's highest stat, and then picking the choice that counters the choice using that stat. Seems the AI heavily favors using whichever choice they have the highest stat for, and countering seems to matter a lot more than the stat roll itself.

If you're seeing 'foil' show up in the description, that means you're successfully countering your opponent, whereas if you see 'counter' in the description, that means your opponent is countering you.

Haven't lost a game yet, but I'm also only like 5-6 games of chess played over three characters.

[wanderindin]

My experience has been this basically -
If both characters have low stats every match ends in default because neither character can win enough points even if they counter all 4 rounds, so the defender wins.

Otherwise using dialogue context clues you counter what you think the opponent is doing based on what they say on the bottom paragraph. The next screens tells you if you countered them or not.

I think it's also a diceroll on stat odds, and possibly how much chess your char has played?

TBH I found the whole thing quite convoluted and unfun. I was encouraged to simply skip through dialogue cycling 2 options at random until my character's stats were ~12+ on two of the three and expecting to lose by default otherwise.

Why hide the outcome % for options when all other game dialogue works that way. Duels at least tell you "Chance of injury, Chance of Success" etc. It's dumb give the player better feedback.

[karthikram93]

As far as chess goes I just check to opposing players stats and see which is highest of theirs and just pick the counter option even if I suck
I pretty much end up winning most of my games.
Once I tried actually reading and selecting option and it seems like there are some clues here and there to help you counter them and win but it just didn't seem worth the time for me after the 18th game lol

[Johnny 5]

Also how do you play chess for titles? Not that I would. Conquering them seems safer

[Atomsk]

I just randomly pick and more often than not I win. There doesn't seem to be any meaningful upsides or downsides to winning/losing.

[AdahnGorion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2RrRsBgbv0



On a serious note.
It is all about stats (paper, scissor, rock) a long with some RNG.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Admod, the Equivocal:

You guys have me a bit scared. Did they add the chess with death event to ck3?

Funfact, that dreaded event is actually a positive event, not a negative one.

I mean, yeah, your chance of survival is almost zero, but when it happens you have already died, instead of just getting a death screen you get that event with a chance to survive death, if you play the right way and/or have the necessary traits.