Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

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Flyan! Jun 4, 2022 @ 1:12pm
Court tutor aptitude or learning stat?
Currently my court tutor has an excellent aptitude but only 10 total learning stat, would it still be better to go for a high learning stat or will the aptitude give better bonuses?
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Angel Jun 4, 2022 @ 1:32pm 
He may have an excellent aptitude because he is a genius or intelligent. Those traits count more than base learning stats.
I'd need to check the scripting to be certain, but I'm pretty sure it's just aptitude that matters.
Grunaldi Jun 4, 2022 @ 3:02pm 
+2.5 per Learning (max 50)
+10 if Shrewd
+10 if Patient
+10 if Quick
+20 if Intelligent
+20 if 15 points in every skill
+40 if Genius
-10 if Reclusive
-20 if Shy

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Court#Court_positions
CrUsHeR Jun 4, 2022 @ 5:25pm 
The tutor doesn't actually educate the kids at court, that was in CK2.
Flyan! Jun 4, 2022 @ 5:27pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
The tutor doesn't actually educate the kids at court, that was in CK2.
Yes they do, you just give the tutor a ward...
CrUsHeR Jun 4, 2022 @ 6:31pm 
That's not what i mean.

In CK2, the court tutor would automatically serve as a guardian for all children at court who didn't have one.

This is not the case in CK3, where every child needs a dedicated guardian assigned. The court tutor still being limited to two wards like everyone else.


What the court tutor does in CK3:

"If your court has the Court Tutor position populated when the child comes of age, an additional education roll occurs. The guaranteed minimum bonus of +2 points is most likely if the Tutor has Terrible, Poor, or Average aptitude, while Good or Excellent aptitude make getting +3 points more likely. With Excellent aptitude only, there is an approximately 10% chance of the bonus being an entire +4 points.

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Attributes#Education

So it's really only his total aptitude which matters. Using one with higher learning and lower aptitude, instead of one with higher total aptitude won't improve his effect.
Last edited by CrUsHeR; Jun 4, 2022 @ 6:32pm
Emrys of Ailliau Jun 6, 2022 @ 3:22am 
Im quite angry, made a genius character with a master strategist guardian, made it all the way to adulthood and got the rank 2 tough soldier trait. fk the rng in this game.
Emperor2000 Jun 6, 2022 @ 4:07am 
Originally posted by Emrys of Ailliau:
Im quite angry, made a genius character with a master strategist guardian, made it all the way to adulthood and got the rank 2 tough soldier trait. fk the rng in this game.
This is not RNG, but Paradox has increased the needed points for level 3 and 4 educations.

A child now needs more than 25 points to get the tier 4 education and yes it is way too high.

Because now a child needs a university education to have a chance for the tier 4 education, without a university there is only a very low chance to get this many education points.
Last edited by Emperor2000; Jun 6, 2022 @ 4:08am
Emrys of Ailliau Jun 6, 2022 @ 10:56am 
lol just did it all again this time i also recruited an excellent court tutor same fking result as having no tutor at all.
CrUsHeR Jun 6, 2022 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by Emrys of Ailliau:
Im quite angry, made a genius character with a master strategist guardian, made it all the way to adulthood and got the rank 2 tough soldier trait. fk the rng in this game.

That is not how education works, at all. The education type and level of the guardian has no impact on the ward.
Emperor2000 Jun 6, 2022 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Originally posted by Emrys of Ailliau:
Im quite angry, made a genius character with a master strategist guardian, made it all the way to adulthood and got the rank 2 tough soldier trait. fk the rng in this game.

That is not how education works, at all. The education type and level of the guardian has no impact on the ward.
Not correct, the education type and level of the guardian has an impact, because each education increase the skill of the character(by the type and level of the education) and the skills of the guardian has impact on the ward.
CrUsHeR Jun 6, 2022 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

That is not how education works, at all. The education type and level of the guardian has no impact on the ward.
Not correct, the education type and level of the guardian has an impact, because each education increase the skill of the character(by the type and level of the education) and the skills of the guardian has impact on the ward.

Only the skill points of the educator matter, not the education trait.

Doesn't matter if he has 20 martial with lvl 1 education or lvl 4 education.

So the statement is correct.
Emperor2000 Jun 6, 2022 @ 5:00pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Not correct, the education type and level of the guardian has an impact, because each education increase the skill of the character(by the type and level of the education) and the skills of the guardian has impact on the ward.

Only the skill points of the educator matter, not the education trait.

Doesn't matter if he has 20 martial with lvl 1 education or lvl 4 education.

So the statement is correct.
But a tier 4 educator has more skills then an tier 1 educator.
CrUsHeR Jun 7, 2022 @ 3:18am 
Originally posted by Emperor2000:
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Only the skill points of the educator matter, not the education trait.

Doesn't matter if he has 20 martial with lvl 1 education or lvl 4 education.

So the statement is correct.
But a tier 4 educator has more skills then an tier 1 educator.

This is a hypothetical argument, and does not change the fact i wrote above.

You will find plenty of characters with top grade education, but less skill than someone with a lesser education but higher natural skill, bonus from personality / lifestyle / fame traits etc.
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Date Posted: Jun 4, 2022 @ 1:12pm
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