Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

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LooseSeal Oct 11, 2022 @ 12:14pm
Can't usurp the Duchy of Latium.
So, after 300 years of surrounding him, I finally claimed all 3 territories of the Pope and quickly took them.

But turn out he's still my vassal, with the duchy title and I have no option to usurp or revoke it. Seriously? Just because I'm Catholic I can't take my rightful title? He can keep the damn Papacy, just give me my duchy!!

Is my only option to break away from the church? I'd rather not... spent so long helping their crusades...
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Kimlin (Banned) Oct 11, 2022 @ 12:19pm 
I remember taking the land from the pope and he moved to an island. I think I was a reformed faith do yeah, you probably have to break away. You could break away then rejoin but it would be a pain.
LooseSeal Oct 11, 2022 @ 12:21pm 
Argh. So stupid. This never happened in CK2 as far as I remember. You could take his titles, he'd politely ask for them back and you could politely tell him to **** off.

Guess it's new religion time. Damn.
myperfectvictory Oct 11, 2022 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by LooseSeal:
Argh. So stupid. This never happened in CK2 as far as I remember. You could take his titles, he'd politely ask for them back and you could politely tell him to **** off.

Guess it's new religion time. Damn.

I dont see why it should be possible to take his titles as a catholic ruler. he is literally the pope. the head of your faith. the game is centered around religion and head of faith trumps all. the pope should keep his claims.
kalanyr Oct 11, 2022 @ 6:26pm 
You can free him and then use a type of war that doesn't let him keep the title.

That generally means using Conquest or (Non-Pluralist) Holy War CB to strip him of titles.

You can use Other Peoples Claims (you want to use a Claim that prevents the Pope becoming a Vassal, so if he's got a Duchy title, you're either going to have to find someone with a claim on both his duchy and any counties he holds (and you have the appropriate innovation to press) or Push a Claim for the Duchy Title first, then free the Pope , then Push a Claim for the counties he holds.

The Problem with De Jure CB is that they'll vassalize if possible (so you have to make sure you can't take the target as a vassal (eg be of the same rank) and the problem with Claim CB is that they only take the target title and will vassalize the current holder if they hold subordinate County titles (which they usually do).
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Date Posted: Oct 11, 2022 @ 12:14pm
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