Hirds and Coastal Warriors... together?

[tilarium]

So playing along in my new game with the goal to finally get the Blood Eagle achievement. Decided to roleplay it along starting as Jarl Halfdan who negotiated the Danelaw. The new King Halfdan died and his son Sigfrið is King now. One of the first things I was going to do with him is Hybridize the Norse culture with Anglo-Saxon to create the Danelander culture. Looking at the traditions and realized the the Norse had Coastal Warriors while the Anglo-Saxons had Hirds. Hirds is basically just a lite version of Coastal Warriors but I'm wondering.. if I take both will Strange and Hale provide double Prestige bonuses and would Strong be even more common? Like double common? Or will the game not let me use them both?

[jerrypocalypse]

Pretty sure those are mutually exclusive, so you can only have one or the other.

That said, even if you can take both, the same effects don't stack. If 2 traditions have the same effect, it only uses the better of them, it doesn't add the effect together.

[tilarium]

Ah bummer but good to know, I'll probably keep Coastal then as it gives access to a couple of other units. Though, Hird does give a few other bonuses. Ideally, I'd love to hybridize with English culture but no chance of it coming any time soon because even though the Kingdom of England exists and there is a King of England, he's Anglo-Saxon and not of Frankish origin.

[garthurbrown]

Originally posted by tilarium:

Ah bummer but good to know, I'll probably keep Coastal then as it gives access to a couple of other units. Though, Hird does give a few other bonuses. Ideally, I'd love to hybridize with English culture but no chance of it coming any time soon because even though the Kingdom of England exists and there is a King of England, he's Anglo-Saxon and not of Frankish origin.

I think, but I'm not certain, that the additional effects from hirds will be retained, but the compounding of effects doesn't happen.

Can anyone confirm?

[Deylendor]

The +2 Knights from Hirds stack. For anything else coastal warriors does the same and better.

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by garthurbrown:

Originally posted by tilarium:

Ah bummer but good to know, I'll probably keep Coastal then as it gives access to a couple of other units. Though, Hird does give a few other bonuses. Ideally, I'd love to hybridize with English culture but no chance of it coming any time soon because even though the Kingdom of England exists and there is a King of England, he's Anglo-Saxon and not of Frankish origin.

I think, but I'm not certain, that the additional effects from hirds will be retained, but the compounding of effects doesn't happen.

Can anyone confirm?

Same effects definitely do not stack. So having 2 traditions, if possible in this case, that increase the chances for characters to have the Strong trait, will not increase the effect. It will be the same as having one or the other.

Looking at the wiki, it might actually be possible to have both Hirds and Coastal Warriors. They don't list each other as being mutually exclusive, but have some of the same other traditions listed as being about not being taken in conjunction with them (namely Warrior Culture). So it looks like I was incorrect and you should be able to take both. However, the Strong trait effect won't stack. You'll effectively just get each of their unique things and all of the same effects will act as if you only have the one tradition