King Murchad mac Donnchad.....he is a bit lame...!

[david1806]

Hi all....
Playing with this Irish chap, and I have to say, his skills are really poor - literally poor. Apart from Martial, every single skill is 'poor' - and Diplomacy would be even worse if I had not picked a Lifestyle to improve it. I guess his skills are hard coded into the game i.e. they are always the same, even if you started another game....?

But the question I have is - he has the choice of taking a realm through warfare, or making the Earl his vassal, which he has asked for. Which do you think is the better option, and just as importantly - why?

Thanks in advance....

[jerrypocalypse]

Offering vassalization is nice because there's less maintenance to be done regarding your personal domain limit, and it typically gives the vassal an opinion boost. It also keeps the control in that vassal's counties higher.

If you take it through warfare, you're likely going to be seiging places, which lowers the control in the county. Meaning you're more likely to have peasant revolts, tax issues, etc. War also means less income during those months you're at war due to the raised army maintenance. The upside is you personally get the land, which means you'll earn more from it after the control level is back up - assuming you remain at/below your domain limit.

Generally, if the ruler is willing to be vassalized, I opt to do that as it's quick and usually causes fewer issues.

[Ultimate Powa]

Also depends on the culture/religion of the person who you are vassalizing.
If they are different, it may be better to siege the place and take it for yourself.
If culture and/or faith are not a concern to you, then accept the vassal.
(It's harder to get a culture of a leader to change than it is their faith and they will convert all counties in their domain to their culture, so make sure its yours.)

[Razorblade]

The optimal choice is to hold every county in your home duchy yourself, up to your Domain limit, since that'll maximize the tax income and levies you get from those counties. However, CK3 isn't a terribly difficult game, so I'd just do whatever seems fun to you.

[david1806]

Razorblade님이 먼저 게시:

....CK3 isn't a terribly difficult game......

Sorry Razor, this did make me smile! Maybe compared to other Paradox games (for example, HoI4 - a game I still have broken yet!! LOL!) it isn't difficult, but as far as PC games go, I still think CK3 is a complex game. But obviously that is just me mate - maybe I am just a dumba@@....!!