Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

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mb3 Sep 22, 2022 @ 11:23am
Is the game supposed to be this easy?
I mean I started as the Jarl of Uppland and left to go help my brother fight to avenge our farther's death. I literally did nothing other than fight that war, and create two titles. First a Duchy, and then the Kingdom of Sweden. Within no time everyone around me was just rolling over to become my vassal. These are Vikings who love and honor war mind you.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866281334

I know I have good diplomacy and all but even Jarl Sigurdr "Snake-In-The-Eye" who is my brother, and HAS CLAMS ON ALL MY TITLES, and who had the same amount of Duchy's and County's as me, and the same amount of vassals as me, decided to become my vassal. Granted it was only by +1, but still it shouldn't even be possible.
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Joi Ægiss Sep 22, 2022 @ 11:43am 
Its very easy as Björn Ironside to make all them brothers his vassals and make one huge viking empire. Specaly if you go diplomacy and make sure to get dynastys leader. Even at hard diffuculty its one of the easyest way to go.
Monkey89brains Sep 22, 2022 @ 11:43am 
Vikings are literal easy mode.
Razorblade Sep 22, 2022 @ 12:23pm 
The problem with the Norse is that their culture is very widespread, religiously united, and politically fragmented at the start of the game, making it easy to unite Scandanavia easily. It's not so easy in most other areas with more cultural, religious, and political diversity.

Regardless, generally the challenge of CK3 is keeping your realm togerher; not building it.
JC Sep 22, 2022 @ 12:52pm 
Yes, that is one of the easiest starts there is.. It's so easy even the AI becomes has no trouble becoming king in less than 20 years more often than not.
StrayDogFreedom Sep 22, 2022 @ 1:58pm 
the only times i've ever found the game difficult on true settings are when I play as a vassal of brittany or france or england or in those areas early game and the vikings invade with a ton of special troops and my king is weak so we lose and they take my land.
the entire game is easy mode outside of that specific situation.
PostalGibbon Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:22pm 
Originally posted by StrayDogFreedom:
the only times i've ever found the game difficult on true settings are when I play as a vassal of brittany or france or england or in those areas early game and the vikings invade with a ton of special troops and my king is weak so we lose and they take my land.
the entire game is easy mode outside of that specific situation.

There is difficulty in Tibet, China areas of map. Problem religion with Equal inheritance + concubines. Nothing scream failure louder than having 10 - 15 kids all of them inheriting in first succession.
Last edited by PostalGibbon; Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:25pm
Dark Apollo Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by mb3:
I mean I started as the Jarl of Uppland and left to go help my brother fight to avenge our farther's death. I literally did nothing other than fight that war, and create two titles. First a Duchy, and then the Kingdom of Sweden. Within no time everyone around me was just rolling over to become my vassal. These are Vikings who love and honor war mind you.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866281334

I know I have good diplomacy and all but even Jarl Sigurdr "Snake-In-The-Eye" who is my brother, and HAS CLAMS ON ALL MY TITLES, and who had the same amount of Duchy's and County's as me, and the same amount of vassals as me, decided to become my vassal. Granted it was only by +1, but still it shouldn't even be possible.


Originally posted by JC:
Yes, that is one of the easiest starts there is.. It's so easy even the AI becomes has no trouble becoming king in less than 20 years more often than not.

I agree this game is an embarrassment compared to other grand strategy titles. Its way too easy. What makes it worse is the devs seem content of making it a "one size fits all game" bc there is no way of increasing the difficulty
Ichangedmyname Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:50pm 
I my opinion that is one of the easiest starts in the game. on my first game back normal difficulty iron man I had taken all of Norway and a good chunk or Europe no one could touch me had like over 60k leaveys.
Originally posted by PostalGibbon:

There is difficulty in Tibet, China areas of map. Problem religion with Equal inheritance + concubines. Nothing scream failure louder than having 10 - 15 kids all of them inheriting in first succession.

But that renown. :stella_hearts:
Ashling Sep 22, 2022 @ 5:37pm 
Tribal is the easiest government form, the norse are the easiest tribals.

Originally posted by PostalGibbon:
There is difficulty in Tibet, China areas of map. Problem religion with Equal inheritance + concubines. Nothing scream failure louder than having 10 - 15 kids all of them inheriting in first succession.
Yep, totally agree. Not only because of all the stuff you mentioned but also because Tibet is the largest non-formed empire and it's all mountains. It basically forces you to be defensive or, if you go on the offensive, to pay a pretty steep price when replacing your casualties.

But playing as the Han is pretty fun. They don't have the same mountain stuff going on, but, still, Tibet's a pain to form.
Originally posted by Dark Apollo:
I agree this game is an embarrassment compared to other grand strategy titles. Its way too easy. What makes it worse is the devs seem content of making it a "one size fits all game" bc there is no way of increasing the difficulty
Yeah, it'd be cool if they had more outward difficulty settings like giving the ai more men at arms or more aggressiveness. But we do have realm stability.
PostalGibbon Sep 23, 2022 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by Admod, the Equivocal:
Originally posted by PostalGibbon:

There is difficulty in Tibet, China areas of map. Problem religion with Equal inheritance + concubines. Nothing scream failure louder than having 10 - 15 kids all of them inheriting in first succession.

But that renown. :stella_hearts:

You are absolutely right with equal inheritance there is at least something useful to use that renown like disinherit +10 kids.
But playing equal inheritance ruler is more challenge than your average male dominated catholic ruler that can be agreed?
MKV B58 Sep 23, 2022 @ 1:33am 
its an easy game, just roleplay your character. if your ruler is a lust person, then go ♥♥♥♥ everyone. if your character is just, go protect your neighbors.
Celestial Sep 23, 2022 @ 3:08am 
When you have created an enormous Empire worth several Empire Titles, and have vassals of 12+ Kingdoms, your real and final challenge will be fighting the Mongol Empire.

In my recent Iron Man playthrough I had 50,000 troops and another 40,000 from 2 separate allies vs 70,000+ Mongols. They have very powerful troops.

You can play at your own pace and enjoy the Role Playing, but if you want world domination, you need to bulk up quick, including getting your succession laws settled, and economy built up strong.
Last edited by Celestial; Sep 23, 2022 @ 3:13am
Team Triss Sep 23, 2022 @ 6:10am 
Originally posted by Razorblade:
Regardless, generally the challenge of CK3 is keeping your realm togerher; not building it.
Truer words were never spoken.
iaf.nga Sep 23, 2022 @ 6:48am 
Are good games even allowed to be easy? I prefer one hit kills in games I play. Like if someone invades me, if they siege any of my holdings for more than one day, I surrender the war. If any of my army got into a fight, I disband them and never raise them during that war. If anybody in my court got injured or sick or gay, I kill them with console command.
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Date Posted: Sep 22, 2022 @ 11:23am
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